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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8497640" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Column 3 is wrong because you only use SB after the first save is succeeds.&nbsp; Looking at row 1, if Base failure is .35% there is no boost for casting SB, it is .35% when you cast SB.&nbsp; Column 3 should be 0, that should fix the table.Think of it this way:&nbsp; If I tell you I will let you roll a d20 20 times and I will give you $1000 if you roll at least one 1 and you will give me $1000 if you don't.&nbsp; You should take this bet, you have a 65% chance of winning.If you have already rolled 19 times in a row and not got a 1 and I offer you the same deal, roll a 1 on this roll you would be foolish to take it because you have a 95% chance of losing.That is obviously an extreme example, chosen to illustrate the point.&nbsp; For something more directly applicable - If I tell you I will let you roll two dice and give you $1000 if ONE of them is below 8, you give me $1000 if both are 8 or above.&nbsp; You have a 58% chance of winning.&nbsp; This is a good bet for you.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is disadvantage If you already rolled one dice and it is above an 8 and I tell you I will give you $1000 if you roll below an 8 on the next dice you would be foolish to take that bet because you only have a 35% chance of winning.&nbsp; This is silvery barbsIf you could chose to use the slot before the first&nbsp; roll it would be more powerful mathematically.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8497640, member: 7030563"] Column 3 is wrong because you only use SB after the first save is succeeds. Looking at row 1, if Base failure is .35% there is no boost for casting SB, it is .35% when you cast SB. Column 3 should be 0, that should fix the table. Think of it this way: If I tell you I will let you roll a d20 20 times and I will give you $1000 if you roll at least one 1 and you will give me $1000 if you don't. You should take this bet, you have a 65% chance of winning. If you have already rolled 19 times in a row and not got a 1 and I offer you the same deal, roll a 1 on this roll you would be foolish to take it because you have a 95% chance of losing. That is obviously an extreme example, chosen to illustrate the point. For something more directly applicable - If I tell you I will let you roll two dice and give you $1000 if ONE of them is below 8, you give me $1000 if both are 8 or above. You have a 58% chance of winning. This is a good bet for you. [B]This is disadvantage [/B] If you already rolled one dice and it is above an 8 and I tell you I will give you $1000 if you roll below an 8 on the next dice you would be foolish to take that bet because you only have a 35% chance of winning. [B]This is silvery barbs[/B] If you could chose to use the slot before the first roll it would be more powerful mathematically. [/QUOTE]

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