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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8497753" data-attributes="member: 58197">Forget the math. The simplest way to compare is this: Disadvantage and SB both let you force the enemy to make a second roll if they succeed on the first. (If they fail the first, neither disadvantage nor SB changes anything.) Overall, counting from the start of your turn, the total chance of landing the spell is the same either way.However, disadvantage must be applied before you see the outcome of the first roll. SB lets you wait and save the resources if you don't need them. So it's better, because you only have to use it half as often.ECMO3 is arguing that we should count from the moment SB and disadvantage respectively are applied, rather than from the start of the turn. That approach requires some math, but if you account for everything properly, it ends up in the same place: SB is still better. ECMO3 was doing the math right on SB but overvaluing disadvantage by a factor of 3.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8497753, member: 58197"] Forget the math. The simplest way to compare is this: Disadvantage and SB both let you force the enemy to make a second roll if they succeed on the first. (If they fail the first, neither disadvantage nor SB changes anything.) Overall, counting from the start of your turn, the total chance of landing the spell is the same either way. However, disadvantage must be applied before you see the outcome of the first roll. SB lets you wait and save the resources if you don't need them. So it's better, because you only have to use it half as often. ECMO3 is arguing that we should count from the moment SB and disadvantage respectively are applied, rather than from the start of the turn. That approach requires some math, but if you account for everything properly, it ends up in the same place: SB is still better. ECMO3 was doing the math right on SB but overvaluing disadvantage by a factor of 3. [/QUOTE]

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