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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8498004" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I am not overvaluing anything.The chance SB will be successful is applied from when you choose to cast it, that is when you are using the spell slot and having reroll against say a DC 5 is a heck of a lot less likely to succeed than giving someone disadvantage on a DC 5.If you are weighing the cost at the start of the turn you need to consider all the rolled up costs in this discussion, which include positioning, saving a slot to have a chance to use it and losing your reaction.&nbsp; You have to put a value on these because the decision is no longer made when you cast the spell, it is made at the begining of the turn and all your decisions and your cost basis needs to include that.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a cost there because those things are &quot;spent&quot; whether you cast SB or not.It is not an accurate comparison to make the cost associated with it based solely on the spell slot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8498004, member: 7030563"] I am not overvaluing anything. The chance SB will be successful is applied from when you choose to cast it, that is when you are using the spell slot and having reroll against say a DC 5 is a heck of a lot less likely to succeed than giving someone disadvantage on a DC 5. If you are weighing the cost at the start of the turn you need to consider all the rolled up costs in this discussion, which include positioning, saving a slot to have a chance to use it and losing your reaction. You have to put a value on these because the decision is no longer made when you cast the spell, it is made at the begining of the turn and all your decisions and your cost basis needs to include that. There is a cost there because those things are "spent" whether you cast SB or not. It is not an accurate comparison to make the cost associated with it based solely on the spell slot. [/QUOTE]

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