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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8866798" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>First, welcome to the forum!</p><p></p><p>Interesting question. I'll quote the spells for reference:</p><p></p><p>[spoiler="Simulacrum"]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]270306[/ATTACH]</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>[spoiler="True Polymorph"]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]270307[/ATTACH]</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p></p><p>It would really depend on the DM since 5E is all about "rulings" instead of rules.</p><p></p><p>I would not allow it since the Simulacrum is part creature/part illusion. While Simulacrum does say <em>"otherwise be affected as a normal creature,"</em> it is not a creature, which is the requirement for True Polymorph. Additionally, since the Simulacrum is ice/snow, it is partially an object, but obviously a <em>magical</em> object, so True Polymorph would not work in that way, either.</p><p></p><p>Now, if a DM did rule it was possible, as a player I wouldn't dispute it either. So, I'll respond as if it was ruled to be possible:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Simulacrum states <em>"Otherwise, the illusion uses all the statistics of the creature it duplicates."</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it would not be an archmage. It would be a 19th level bard--assuming you used the <em>wish</em> to make a Simulacrum of yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I would rule "No" because even with True Polymorph allowed, it states <em>"It retains its alignment and personality."</em> Simulacrum's cannot learn or advance or replenish spells, so it still wouldn't be able to IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is more along the lines of using True Polymorph to change an object into a creature. Once permanent, <em>"you no longer control the creature. It might remain friendly to you, depending on how you have treated it."</em></p><p></p><p>Whether or not you could then do it again would depend on how the DM has it react.</p><p></p><p>It's an interesting concept...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8866798, member: 6987520"] First, welcome to the forum! Interesting question. I'll quote the spells for reference: [spoiler="Simulacrum"] [ATTACH type="full"]270306[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] [spoiler="True Polymorph"] [ATTACH type="full"]270307[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] It would really depend on the DM since 5E is all about "rulings" instead of rules. I would not allow it since the Simulacrum is part creature/part illusion. While Simulacrum does say [I]"otherwise be affected as a normal creature,"[/I] it is not a creature, which is the requirement for True Polymorph. Additionally, since the Simulacrum is ice/snow, it is partially an object, but obviously a [I]magical[/I] object, so True Polymorph would not work in that way, either. Now, if a DM did rule it was possible, as a player I wouldn't dispute it either. So, I'll respond as if it was ruled to be possible: Correct. Simulacrum states [I]"Otherwise, the illusion uses all the statistics of the creature it duplicates."[/I] No, it would not be an archmage. It would be a 19th level bard--assuming you used the [I]wish[/I] to make a Simulacrum of yourself. Again, I would rule "No" because even with True Polymorph allowed, it states [I]"It retains its alignment and personality."[/I] Simulacrum's cannot learn or advance or replenish spells, so it still wouldn't be able to IMO. This is more along the lines of using True Polymorph to change an object into a creature. Once permanent, [I]"you no longer control the creature. It might remain friendly to you, depending on how you have treated it."[/I] Whether or not you could then do it again would depend on how the DM has it react. It's an interesting concept... [/QUOTE]
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