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<blockquote data-quote="Warforged DK" data-source="post: 8867308" data-attributes="member: 6680531">If you, a 19th level Bard, make a simulacrum of yourself, I'd rule it as a copy of your character sheet, with no equipment, half your HP, and the same number of spells slots you have, minus the one used for Simulacrum.&nbsp; It can never learn new spells or create new spell slots while a simulacrum. It has no CR, no NPC creature stats.&nbsp; It's a copy of you, but obeys your wishes, per the simulacrum spell. Now, to cast True Polymorph on the Simulacrum of you, the simulacrum could change into any CR 19 creature or lower.&nbsp; It gains those creature stats, losing the stats it had as a simulacrum and gaining those of the CR 19 or lower creature. It'd retain its alignment (yours) and personality, (also yours), effectively making it a copy of yourself.&nbsp; As Creature into Creature; nothing in the spell says it has to remain with your party or even be friendly to you, once True polymorphed. I'd even argue that you might have trouble maintaining concentration for the full hour.As a DM, I'd probably treat the simulacrum as a creature that looks like you, acts like you, but has none of your memories. When True Polymorphed into another creature, it looks like you, shares your alignment, but may be a vastly different creature and freak out when waking up for the first time, with knowledge of magic, but not a sense of self.&nbsp; I'd make it an ethical issue, are you creating the next villain? How will it react to this?&nbsp; Whatever happens, the player isn't getting a 2nd character sheet to run.The later arguments- Simulacrum of a Stone Giant- isn't possible.&nbsp; Simulacrum only works to create a beast or humanoid.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warforged DK, post: 8867308, member: 6680531"] If you, a 19th level Bard, make a simulacrum of yourself, I'd rule it as a copy of your character sheet, with no equipment, half your HP, and the same number of spells slots you have, minus the one used for Simulacrum. It can never learn new spells or create new spell slots while a simulacrum. It has no CR, no NPC creature stats. It's a copy of you, but obeys your wishes, per the simulacrum spell. Now, to cast True Polymorph on the Simulacrum of you, the simulacrum could change into any CR 19 creature or lower. It gains those creature stats, losing the stats it had as a simulacrum and gaining those of the CR 19 or lower creature. It'd retain its alignment (yours) and personality, (also yours), effectively making it a copy of yourself. As Creature into Creature; nothing in the spell says it has to remain with your party or even be friendly to you, once True polymorphed. I'd even argue that you might have trouble maintaining concentration for the full hour. As a DM, I'd probably treat the simulacrum as a creature that looks like you, acts like you, but has none of your memories. When True Polymorphed into another creature, it looks like you, shares your alignment, but may be a vastly different creature and freak out when waking up for the first time, with knowledge of magic, but not a sense of self. I'd make it an ethical issue, are you creating the next villain? How will it react to this? Whatever happens, the player isn't getting a 2nd character sheet to run. The later arguments- Simulacrum of a Stone Giant- isn't possible. Simulacrum only works to create a beast or humanoid. [/QUOTE]

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