Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Simulacrum - Sorcery Points?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7267627" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I think by the RAW the answer is 'yes' to all. The description of Simulacrum mentions explicitly only that "expended spell slots" aren't regained, and sorcery points are not spell slots, although they can be converted into them. </p><p></p><p>The RAI is probably different, my guess is that the intent was to limit a duplicate spellcaster to cast one day worth of spells, but not more. I would expect a Sage Advice on this matter to tell you that you shouldn't allow sorcery points to be regained either.</p><p></p><p>In fact, there already is a Sage Advice that says that ALSO hit points were not meant to be regained! Even tho the spell description does not say so, check this tweet: <a href="https://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/09/simulacrum-and-undying-creature/" target="_blank">https://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/09/simulacrum-and-undying-creature/</a></p><p></p><p>Overall it sounds to me like the RAI might be for a Simulacrum to be more generally not able to regain anything at all, so as to prevent abuse. I don't see why a duplicate spellcaster shouldn't be able to get spells slots back while a duplicate barbarian should be instead able to get rage back, or a duplicate warlock be able to get mystic arcanum back (which is high-level spells without using slots...).</p><p></p><p>Sadly, the spell is just plain broken beyond repair, so as a DM you'll have to rule something one way or another to prevent abuse.</p><p></p><p>A possible house rule to harmonize results a bit could be to allow a simulacrum to take 3 short rests (altogether, NOT every day) before being unable to benefit from them anymore, and in any case not regain HP during those short rests, and not be able to take any long rest at all.</p><p></p><p>Another possible house rule, albeit more harsh, is plain and simply change the duration from "until dispelled" to 24 hours.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7267627, member: 1465"] I think by the RAW the answer is 'yes' to all. The description of Simulacrum mentions explicitly only that "expended spell slots" aren't regained, and sorcery points are not spell slots, although they can be converted into them. The RAI is probably different, my guess is that the intent was to limit a duplicate spellcaster to cast one day worth of spells, but not more. I would expect a Sage Advice on this matter to tell you that you shouldn't allow sorcery points to be regained either. In fact, there already is a Sage Advice that says that ALSO hit points were not meant to be regained! Even tho the spell description does not say so, check this tweet: [url]https://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/09/simulacrum-and-undying-creature/[/url] Overall it sounds to me like the RAI might be for a Simulacrum to be more generally not able to regain anything at all, so as to prevent abuse. I don't see why a duplicate spellcaster shouldn't be able to get spells slots back while a duplicate barbarian should be instead able to get rage back, or a duplicate warlock be able to get mystic arcanum back (which is high-level spells without using slots...). Sadly, the spell is just plain broken beyond repair, so as a DM you'll have to rule something one way or another to prevent abuse. A possible house rule to harmonize results a bit could be to allow a simulacrum to take 3 short rests (altogether, NOT every day) before being unable to benefit from them anymore, and in any case not regain HP during those short rests, and not be able to take any long rest at all. Another possible house rule, albeit more harsh, is plain and simply change the duration from "until dispelled" to 24 hours. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Simulacrum - Sorcery Points?
Top