Six Blind Men and the Fourth Edition....

[Umbran]

Why do people keep saying this? I mean seriously, has anyone suggested a class action lawsuit to change marketing strategy? It's like the mirror universe "entitlement mentality" where actually saying how you feel about something is perceived as an attack on the rights of a company.

Why? I can only guess. But I note that if the original argument is phrased to make it seem as if the speaker is entitled to information, the usual counter would be a rejection of that entitlement. If the original statement is made to suggest lack of professional ethics or business sense, the usual counter is to state otherwise. Our culture is rather set in the dialectic mode

What we usually lack on this particular topic is constructive criticism. People say they are unhappy, but rarely articulate anything the company could sensibly do to make things better. In many places of contention, keeping criticism constructive would help enormously.

 

[Agamon]

What we usually lack on this particular topic is constructive criticism. People say they are unhappy, but rarely articulate anything the company could sensibly do to make things better. In many places of contention, keeping criticism constructive would help enormously.

Release 4E info like they released 3E info. I know the December 2007 version of Dragon is laughable compared to the December 1999 Dragon, but still, it's up to them how they disseminate the info. And they're doing a worse job than 8 years ago.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

Sometimes I really regret not having been there when 3rd edition was announced first, because I would like to compare the two announcement-to-release times.

What is kind of funny is that I kind of feel the opposite. I didn't hear about 3e until they had released the booklet on how to convert your PC to 3e. What was that, about a month or so before release? It was close enough that I had decent information, it was short enough that I didn't go crazy waiting, speculating and worrying.

This time I heard about 4e right at the beginning and it seems like it is taking forever and I flip from being excited by what I hear, to being annoyed at all the complaining, to being worried that the complainers are right. Unfortunately now that Pandora is out of the box, I can't help but want to follow what is going on, even if it gets me frustrated.

Part of me wishes that I could have stayed blissfully ignorant until April or so.

 

[Wolfspider]

This was all more fun in 2000.

I'm just stickin' around until I get the 4e version of Skurge Dwarfbane.

SKURGE!!!

I love Skurge.

 

[jester47]

Here is what I think:

I think WotC should have held action until 6 months before to announce.
And then used their Hype-Frenzy marketing feat.
The Preview books should have come out 3 months before, with info that was set in stone at the 6 month date.

I think we would have gotten a much better and richer anticipation experience if they had followed those tactics.

Also, KB, I think that one reason that it feels lame is because people are not nearly polite as they were on these boards pre 3e. When I go over to the Necromancer Games Forums I get excited about 4e mainly b/c of the attitude there.

I think we should expand the Eric Grandmother Rule to include politeness:

In the blurb about behevior perhaps we can say that she takes snarky comments made to others personally.

 

[The Little Raven]

I think we would have gotten a much better and richer anticipation experience if they had followed those tactics.

If they had done that, we'd be neck deep in "They're trying to kill Paizo!" threads, since a shorter time between announcement and release would be even more difficult for those that might wish to support the latest edition.