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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 6177991" data-attributes="member: 2303">Oneof the issues I had with skill challenges was this: If it was to be even possible to rack up X successes before 3 failures (where X >> 3),  difficulties had to be low. Which turned the skill roll from "Yay, I made it" to "Shucks, why am I the one to fail?". High difficulties make successes exceptional, low difficulties make failures exceptional. On top of this, it encouraged players to simply not be present if they lacked the right skills, as to try and fail was disastrous. The mechanically best option if the DM allowed it was for everyone but the most skilled player to use "aid other", which was spectacularly boring.My solution to this was to reverse the process; High DC, a number of rounds to the challenge, at least one skill roll had to succeed each round, failed rolls counted as assistance. This gave everyone an incentive to try. It was still far from perfect; the people with the highest interest in the skill challenge would usually want to take their rolls first, which meant that they didn't get any assistance bonus, which meant their rolls quite often failed. At this point in the skill challenge development process here, my players had had enough of skill challenges and I didn't try to improve them any further.A skill challenge system for 5E would have to solve all these issues before I would see it as in any way positive.</blockquote>