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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlckKnght" data-source="post: 7809037" data-attributes="member: 6958254">I think armor skills are still a thing, but they have only narrow uses and you'll seldom roll them on attribute checks. You don't need any skill to just wear normal quality armor. Having skill in a category of armor (Light, Medium or Heavy) does however let you unlock the extra SOAK from higher quality armor, and for Medium and Heavy armors they offset the DEFENSE penalties those kinds of armor cause (by one point per die you have in your skill pool). All of the armor skills are [combat] skills, not defense skills that you can substitute in at any time. The upcoming 1.2 edition is adding them to a bunch of careers in OLD. There may be a few careers in NEW and NOW that should have them added to their skill listings, but most of the obvious ones already have the full [combat] category, so they don't need specific armor skills too.This does tie in to the other question the OP asked about how strict the skill lists should be considered. I think players should often be allowed to substitute a relevant skill into a career's skill list or prerequisites, and even more often into a relevant [category] that's already being used in one of those places. But the player definitely needs to ask their GM about each one, rather than just treating the lists as general suggestions. As a personal example, one of my characters took the gardening skill as a part of the [crafting] category (rather than [miscellaneous hobbies] where it officially belongs).Also remember that after character creation ends and you start playing, you can quite easily pick up a few ranks of important skills that were not on your career lists by spending XP for incremental advancements. It's only 3 XP to get a new skill at rank 1 (with a 1d6 pool). If you want more, it's only 6 more XP for rank 2, and 9 XP beyond that for rank 3 (where you get a 2d6 pool). If you're missing some important skills (like hardy, perception or reactions), this is a really easy way to improve quickly. 18 XP for two more dice is a pretty good deal if its on a roll you're going to be making all the time (and 3 XP for the first die is always a steal). Your GM might want you to give some in-game justification for how you're doing that incremental improvement, of course, but if you're already doing whatever the actions the skill helps you with (like wearing heavy armor or wielding some exotic weapon), that's quite easy to do. You can also make incremental advances to your attributes, though it tends to be quite expensive.</blockquote>

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