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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5954217" data-attributes="member: 54877">Why not make it separate? It is not as if everything in D&amp;D is treated like a skill.&nbsp; If certain weapon abilities and spell casting are somewhat separate from the heart of the skill system, why not have a few other things that are as well?&nbsp;In fact, it would make a certain amount of sense within the D&amp;D context to have:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Really important, central stuff that you get through class, theme, etc. that is at least partially separate from ability/skill checks.&nbsp; (Like weapons, they may interact with the checks, but are not fully tied to them.)&nbsp; Niche protection is important here.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Things that many adventurers can at least try and/or are likely to have some reason to develop &quot;skill&quot; with (e.g. rogue lockpicking) that work almost entirely in the normal ability/skill system.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Minor and/or different things that function more as pure ability checks and/or traits, background, etc.</li>
</ol>Once you start thinking about it that way, I think Perception/Awareness clearly goes into the first category.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5954217, member: 54877"] Why not make it separate? It is not as if everything in D&D is treated like a skill. If certain weapon abilities and spell casting are somewhat separate from the heart of the skill system, why not have a few other things that are as well? In fact, it would make a certain amount of sense within the D&D context to have: [LIST=1] [*]Really important, central stuff that you get through class, theme, etc. that is at least partially separate from ability/skill checks. (Like weapons, they may interact with the checks, but are not fully tied to them.) Niche protection is important here. [*]Things that many adventurers can at least try and/or are likely to have some reason to develop "skill" with (e.g. rogue lockpicking) that work almost entirely in the normal ability/skill system. [*]Minor and/or different things that function more as pure ability checks and/or traits, background, etc. [/LIST]Once you start thinking about it that way, I think Perception/Awareness clearly goes into the first category. [/QUOTE]

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