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Message: <blockquote data-quote="David Argall" data-source="post: 430504" data-attributes="member: 4481">Rape & slavery"Man, if this quote is indicative of your attitude(s) to rape, you should leave it out of your campaign. It appears that you have little to no comprehension of the crime and its impact."   I have roughly the same comprehension of rape as I do of extreme violence, having fortunately had little contact with either.  But while neither sex gets greatly upset about their PCs geting slaughtered [in a "fair" way], the women do find rape a much less enjoyable element of the game than men do, and the subject should be approached with caution if you have female players. "Rape of a slave may not have been an everyday occurence in most slave cultures, but to minimise it is unreal."    It is the current fashion to "maximize" rape of slaves.  Just about any sex involving slaves is claimed to be rape [a position that in fact justifies rape by making it the normal case.]  In a case I read of in the LA Times the writer discovered she had a slave ancestress.  She and the rest of her family decided the slave had been raped despite knowing the slave had been married, belonged not to her lover, but to another man, who was quite uptight on the subject of sex, and that both slave and her lover were expelled from the local church over the affair.  In other words, they insisted it was rape despite every fact being against it.  Such is a widespread attitude, and completely fantasy.  "Why on earth do you imagine that a slave owner would be disinclined to rape a slave once he "got the urge". Because his wife might find out? In many cultures he wouldn't even have been regarded as violating his marriage vows, a slave not being fully human."    "The laws of Islam give a man the right to have 4 wives.  They don't give him the nerve."   No matter what the law says about his right to hump his slaves, you are going to find durn few men who are going to do it in a way his wife will catch him."As for running away? Life as a serial rape victim vs life as an escaped slave? I doubt terribly many slaves would view escape as the preferred option. "    In all cultures at all times, slaves ran away in large numbers.  [A current estimate for the South was that 10% of all slaves were escapees at any given time.  However, this counts those who stole a keg and stayed in the woods until they sobered up.]  In cities they walked away and got free jobs.  ["You are obviously an escaped slave."  "I will work for you for half wages."  "Obviously my 1st impression was mistaken."]   It would have been the preferred option expect that master kept guards, whippings, and tended to be less brutal than he might have preferred.  Due to the constant escapes, no society has managed to breed a stable population of slaves.  Without a steady source of captured slaves, slavery dies out, tho this can take well longer than a human lifespan."Perhaps in 19th century USA where there was an underground railroad and states where escaped slave could live free."   The Underground railroad may well have been a fantasy.  Certainly a number of the "facts" about it are suspicious. "In cultures where slaves are primarily war captives, a slave has to choices - be an enslaved foreign national or be a dead foreign national."   Very rapidly he also gained the choice of being free & a scorned minority.  Rome was most famous for letting slaves buy their freedom, but this happened in all slave cultures.  [The slave who had a chance to buy his freedom worked harder, so even tho he bought his freedom with his master's money, master was still well ahead to sell, and when offered gold, paid no attention to whether the law allow the sale or not.]  & in any city, it becomes impossible to keep track of who is free and who is not, so escape was possible from the start.</blockquote>

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