Slings

I can throw playing cards. Hard enough to bleed a target! Me and a friend from high school used to hang out at his grandparents' house after school and spend a good 2 hours working up a sweat throwing cards at each other. Our hands would shake after all that--but it probably had something to do with the case of soda we would drink between us during those two hours.

We nicked up the wall paneling pretty good, and cards would stick in the wall in all sorts of weird angles. It was fun! :D

What can I say, it was a small town and we had nothing better to do.
 

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kenjib said:
Scouring the internet, almost all sources seem to indicate that the sling is typically fired best with a single overhand motion (like pitching a baseball), and not spinning it around several times. This perhaps creates physics similar to a spear thrower?

Yup, in reality, a sling isn't whirled around one's head, except to keep it in motion, like using a lasso. Tossing a lasso is really only one toss to make the loop hold shape, but it's easier to maintain the loop than to get it started. Similarly, a slinger can use momentum to keep the stone in place if he's holding for the proper shot. In practice, it's usually better to sling with one twirl so there's less chaos in the system, so to speak.

(I taught myself to sling in my mispent youth on a ranch, so perhaps my technique is muddled by my lasso training. I became quite accurate at it, and often hunted small game, like rabbits.)

Historically, the Romans used specially trained slingers are part of their troops. Slingers were taught the skill at a very young age as it's a knack difficult to pick up; aiming is less intuitive than a bow and far less than a crossbow. The Romans used slings to deliver messages from one unit to another in notes wrapped around a stone and to use a mass of slingers to deliver caltrops across a battlefield.

The Babylonians used sling bullets, usually cast from clay or bronze, often with curses scribed on the surface of the bullet to cause further harm to the target.

I think D&D badly maligns the sling. It should function more as a thrown weapon than a projectile weapon, but have 10 range increments. A strong man can sling a tremendous stone with a lot of force, although it lacks the penetrating power of bows.

Drawing from memory of some research I did awhile back, a typical military sling stone weighed in around half a pound.

Hope that helps,
Greg
 


Slings and stones

Zhure said:
Drawing from memory of some research I did awhile back, a typical military sling stone weighed in around half a pound.

Still does, in 3e, too!... (I always thought that was excessive, having seen smaller ball bearings used as ammo, but... I stand corrected).

In 1e, slings (and bows) did 1D6, IIRC. 2e I don't recall. In 3e, slings got rooked, dropping to 1D4/1D3 with stones, while bows moved to 1D8.
 

Re: Slings and stones

Steverooo said:


Still does, in 3e, too!... (I always thought that was excessive, having seen smaller ball bearings used as ammo, but... I stand corrected).

In 1e, slings (and bows) did 1D6, IIRC. 2e I don't recall. In 3e, slings got rooked, dropping to 1D4/1D3 with stones, while bows moved to 1D8.

The small ball bearings you're thinking of are probably hunting shot for slingshots rather than slings. They're 3/8ths inch, typically. A slingshot has a lot of force but isn't strong enough to sling a real sling bullet. e=mv^2 and all that, but velocity only helps so much; mass is still a critical part.

In 1e and 2e, slings did 1d4 (man-sized)/1d6+1 (vs larger than man-sized), thus were better vs giants than a bow.

Greg
 


Painfully said:
I can throw playing cards. Hard enough to bleed a target! Me and a friend from high school used to hang out at his grandparents' house after school and spend a good 2 hours working up a sweat throwing cards at each other. Our hands would shake after all that--but it probably had something to do with the case of soda we would drink between us during those two hours.

We nicked up the wall paneling pretty good, and cards would stick in the wall in all sorts of weird angles. It was fun! :D

What can I say, it was a small town and we had nothing better to do.

I too had no life. I can still throw one hard enough to break skin. Stupid rural life.
 

Re: Slings and stones

Steverooo said:


Still does, in 3e, too!... (I always thought that was excessive, having seen smaller ball bearings used as ammo, but... I stand corrected).

In 1e, slings (and bows) did 1D6, IIRC. 2e I don't recall. In 3e, slings got rooked, dropping to 1D4/1D3 with stones, while bows moved to 1D8.

In Basic D&D, it was 1d4.

In 1E and 2E, it was 1d4+1/1d6+1 (medium & smaller / large and bigger).

In 3E, it dropped back to 1d4, probably because they rounded off all weapons that did "dice + adds" for damages (a la hammers, broadswords, etc.)
 

Suggestion:

Heavy sling
Exotic small ranged weapon
Cost -
Damage 1d6
Critical x2
Range Increment 60 ft
Weight 1lb
bullets (10) 1sp, 5lb

Basically, if you take the feat to know how to wield it (it's tricky, like nothing else) you can do more damage with it.

I plan on giving this version to a pack of kobolds...
 


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