Sneak attack from concealment?

Palagast

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I could swear that when you have concealment vs someone, you can make sneak attacks to that someone. Searching through the books, I can't find any rules to back that up though.
Can somebody please tell me where to find this rule?
Or prove me wrong about this, of course :)

Thanks!
 
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There is no such rule.

If you have concealment or cover, and are not being observed, you may attempt to Hide.

If you succeed, then the fact that you are hiding may give you an opportunity to make a sneak attack, but having concealment does not, in itself, allow you to do so.

Also note that having concealment makes a character immune to being sneak attacked, so if concealment is being granted by prevailing lighting or environmental conditions, you need to have a means of ignoring your target's concealment if you wish to have any chance of sneak attacking them.
 

you're thinking of blink. with blink you technically only have concealment but it specifically says in the descriptor that when you attack it's as if you are invisible so the opponent is denied his dex
 

Thanks for your responses. This thought might have come from Blink indeed.
But.. trying to sneak attack while blinking will pose problems on itself, if you ask me.

For one, wouldn't blinking count as others having concealment vs you (since you have the miss chance), or is that just some unnamed miss chance (the times when you go ethereal)?

Where does the invisible part from Blink come from anyway? The spell mentions you winking in and out between your current plane and the ethereal plane, as well as 'Ethereal creatures are invisible', but with e.g. See Invisible it's normally not possible to see someone who is on the ethereal plane.

Let me quote the SRD on blink:
SRD said:
Blink
Transmutation

Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3

Components: V, S

Casting Time: 1 standard action

Range: Personal

Target: You

Duration: 1 round/level (D)
You “blink” back and forth between the Material Plane and the Ethereal Plane. You look as though you’re winking in and out of reality very quickly and at random.

Blinking has several effects, as follows.

Physical attacks against you have a 50% miss chance, and the Blind-Fight feat doesn’t help opponents, since you’re ethereal and not merely invisible. If the attack is capable of striking ethereal creatures, the miss chance is only 20% (for concealment).

If the attacker can see invisible creatures, the miss chance is also only 20%. (For an attacker who can both see and strike ethereal creatures, there is no miss chance.) Likewise, your own attacks have a 20% miss chance, since you sometimes go ethereal just as you are about to strike.

Any individually targeted spell has a 50% chance to fail against you while you’re blinking unless your attacker can target invisible, ethereal creatures. Your own spells have a 20% chance to activate just as you go ethereal, in which case they typically do not affect the Material Plane.

While blinking, you take only half damage from area attacks (but full damage from those that extend onto the Ethereal Plane). You strike as an invisible creature (with a +2 bonus on attack rolls), denying your target any Dexterity bonus to AC.

You take only half damage from falling, since you fall only while you are material.

While blinking, you can step through (but not see through) solid objects. For each 5 feet of solid material you walk through, there is a 50% chance that you become material. If this occurs, you are shunted off to the nearest open space and take 1d6 points of damage per 5 feet so traveled. You can move at only three-quarters speed (because movement on the Ethereal Plane is at half speed, and you spend about half your time there and half your time material.)

Since you spend about half your time on the Ethereal Plane, you can see and even attack ethereal creatures. You interact with ethereal creatures roughly the same way you interact with material ones.

An ethereal creature is invisible, incorporeal, and capable of moving in any direction, even up or down. As an incorporeal creature, you can move through solid objects, including living creatures.

An ethereal creature can see and hear the Material Plane, but everything looks gray and insubstantial. Sight and hearing on the Material Plane are limited to 60 feet.

Force effects and abjurations affect you normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can’t attack material creatures, and spells you cast while ethereal affect only other ethereal things. Certain material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane. Treat other ethereal creatures and objects as material.
 

Palagast said:
Thanks for your responses. This thought might have come from Blink indeed.
But.. trying to sneak attack while blinking will pose problems on itself, if you ask me.

For one, wouldn't blinking count as others having concealment vs you (since you have the miss chance), or is that just some unnamed miss chance (the times when you go ethereal)?

Where does the invisible part from Blink come from anyway? The spell mentions you winking in and out between your current plane and the ethereal plane, as well as 'Ethereal creatures are invisible', but with e.g. See Invisible it's normally not possible to see someone who is on the ethereal plane.

1. the wotc website addresses this in their all about sneak attacks segment. you want to look at part 2 for blink http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040224a
2. a blinking creature strikes as an invisible creature. but they are not actually invisble. this also means that blindsight does not count against blinking creatures
 


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