sneak attack question(s)
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abyssaldeath
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Yes, as long as you have combat advantage and you attack with the appropriate weapon you can deal sneak attack damage. You are no longer required to flank. Flanking is just the easiest way to get combat advantage.
RangerWickett
Legend
Note, however, that a flanked creature only grants combat advantage to the creatures flanking it. So if your two buddies have flanked a monster, you can't stand back and sneak attack it with ranged attacks.
If the creature is dazed, stunned, restrained, or . . . I'm sure there are other conditions that make a creature grant combat advantage in general (as opposed to a specific set of creatures), then you can sneak attack it.
If the creature is dazed, stunned, restrained, or . . . I'm sure there are other conditions that make a creature grant combat advantage in general (as opposed to a specific set of creatures), then you can sneak attack it.
DracoSuave
First Post
Despite what people might have you believe, Rogues have a dazzling array of abilities that allow them combat advantage against a target. These start with Bluff and Stealth and work their way up to the actual powers themselves. Rogues aren't slaves to flanking, tho it is obviously a good tactic for them.
There's no such thing as a 'melee rogue' or 'ranged rogue' build until you take nothing but melee powers or nothing but ranged powers, or go Ruthless Ruffian.
A smart non-Ruffian can dodge in and out of melee range, throw daggers for the same attack rate and damage as simply stabbing with them, and if they're Brutal Scoundrel they'll still add their Strength modifier.
Flanking as 'required' is an illusion.
There's no such thing as a 'melee rogue' or 'ranged rogue' build until you take nothing but melee powers or nothing but ranged powers, or go Ruthless Ruffian.
A smart non-Ruffian can dodge in and out of melee range, throw daggers for the same attack rate and damage as simply stabbing with them, and if they're Brutal Scoundrel they'll still add their Strength modifier.
Flanking as 'required' is an illusion.
You were never required to flank; even in 3E you could sneak attack anyone that was denied their Dex bonus to AC.
MarkB
Legend
Though, just for the sake of completeness, it is worth noting that if you are one of those two guys flanking the opponent, he doesn't just grant combat advantage against your melee attacks - he does so for any attack you make, including ranged, close and area attacks.
DracoSuave
First Post
Altho, if said attack is a ranged or area attack, you'll probably get attacked with an opportunity attack for doing so.
And if your other flanker is a fighter who has probably marked said opponent, this might actually be good tactics.
And if your other flanker is a fighter who has probably marked said opponent, this might actually be good tactics.
How do you gain CA with bluff?
DracoSuave
First Post
Two ways: You Feint as a standard action, or you use it as a distraction so you can Stealth.
You can use both dorms once per encounter.
There are powers that change how you can use it as well.
You can use both dorms once per encounter.
There are powers that change how you can use it as well.
if I use bluff to create a diversion so I can immediately use a stealth check, I still must meet all the requirements for that stealth check, right? In what circumstances would I do this instead of just doing the stealth check at the end of a move action?
