Sneak attack when swallowed whole?

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

I hadn't even thought of parasites, and I've taken a course in that topic.

What are the stats for a typical parasite? 3 size categories smaller than host, minimum size D, electricity and acid resistance (parasites use a mild electric field to keep the acid away), blood drain, improved grab, attach, etc. Basically, they're small dire weasels.

 

[Dr_Rictus]

Basically, they're small dire weasels.

I really like the way you think. I am so stealing this idea at the first opportunity.

 

[Bob Mackenzie]

I like it too.

No imagine a purple worm that has learned to vomit up its stomach contents.....

Cheers

Bob

 

[jasper]

Muppets Lab Here. I am Dr Honeydew.
Good day boys and girls. Today on our show we explore the wonder world of Purple Worms. And weather a rogue can sneak attack one from the stomach lining.
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Looks we having some trouble with a camera broadcast. Animal get the tums ready.


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Well Folks That all the time we have today on Muppets lab.

Good day.

 

[Squire James]

I would probably allow sneak attacks on the stomach, but damage only applies to cutting his way out, not killing the creature itself. None of the damage done to the stomach is actually applied against the creature, as far as I know.

 

[Sinjin the Rogue]

tight quarters

Don't forget that while you are in the stomach of the creature, you not only take acid damage, but you take crushing damage from the stomach muscles as well. This crushing damage would indicate that you just don't have a lot of room to play with.

In addition, note that you can only use tiny weapons to deal damage, while swallowed. This too is indicative of the fact that you have no room to move while you get crushed by the stomach muscles. I would contend that using sneak attack requires you to be able to pick the most sensative or vital areas to attack, but in the stomach of a creature, I would think that you would not be able to avail yourself of an opportune strike.

Therefore, I would not allow sneak attacks to a swallowed PC (I usually play a rogue, so please realize that I am being impartial), or I might consider house ruling it so that you do get sneak attacks ONLY if you are lucky enough to land a critical hit.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Thanks for the compliment, Dr. Rictus

I think damage applied to the stomach should count against the creature, but I also just don't see how you can sneak attack without the Blindsight 5 ft radius feat.

BTW it's been errata'd - it isn't tiny weapon anymore, it's light weapon.

 

[Grendel]

A rogue can only sneak attack a living creature with a discernible anatomy. Any creature that is immune to critical hits is also not vulnerable to sneak attacks. The rogue must be able to see the target well enough to pick out a vital spot and must be able to reach a vital spot. The rogue cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment or striking the limbs of a creature whose vitals are beyond reach.

1. must have discernible anatomy. I imagine that the inside of a monsters stomach looks the same from all angles.

2. The rogue must be able to see the target well enough to pick out a vital spot and must be able to reach a vital spot. We can assume right off the bat that the digestive track is not a vital spot, since cutting your way out doesn't kill the creature. And there is no way to spot a vital organ inside the gizard (100% cover).

Therefore no sneak attack when in the belly of the beast.

 

[dkilgo]

I think that I would allow all attacks that actually would threaten a critical hit to hit, but not allow any other attack to hit. Due to all the acid, convulsing, and the parasites. The only hit that would count would be the critical hit. The damage for non-rogues is straight crit damage without strength mod (You are not able to swing the weapon to get the full effect of your STR.). Rogues would get sneak attack damage along with the weapons damage, but would also lack the strength mod (and the crit mod optional )to the damage roll.

After so many hits the swallowed creature would actually cut himself free. The only problem I am having right now is that I don't know how many hits to make it. My original idea was 3, but I am now leaning towards 4, or 5, because I am really thinking that it would really have to depend on the size of the creature.

Also, I was thinking that if too much time went by between actual damaging hits that the wounds would start to close back up. Simulating the effect of the organs closing the newly opened wound. Perhaps 4 to 5 rounds I would guess because I think that it would take an organ a little time to adjust to the damage.

What do you guys think? This is a real rough draft of what I am actually drafting up, but I would like to think that you could figure out what I am trying to say.

Thanks for your comments/complaints.

 

[DWARF]

And that's why I have most creatures chew before swallowing. I figure being inside someone's mouth counts as automatic-critical for bite damage.