Sneak attacks within an Obscuring Mist

[Pickaxe]

Nope. Faerie Fire wouldn't help in this case.

Could somebody clarify this? Does Faerie Fire not work with the concealment from fog spells, or is it just the peculiars of the example discussed in this thread that negate it? Another thread ("Items for a 9th level druid") suggested that Faerie Fire/Obscuring Mist (or Fog Cloud) is a good tactic, presumably because you can give your friends concealment without providing concealment for one or more enemies. Is this wrong?

--Axe

 

[Hypersmurf]

He peaks around the edge of the column (thus having improved cover with its +10 bonus to Hide).

So no longer 'automatic', then

No more problem...

I think you are getting caught up in the convention of the rules.

Absolutely, I am. That's what the rules are for.

Surprise while a defined term in D&D that deals with the start of combat can also be used descriptively.

Why, certainly it can. But if you're interpreting a rule, you use the defined term, not the descriptive one.

-Hyp.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Could somebody clarify this? Does Faerie Fire not work with the concealment from fog spells, or is it just the peculiars of the example discussed in this thread that negate it?

Faerie Fire mentions that it removes the concealment miss chance from Darkness and similar conditions.

Specifically:

Outlined creatures do not benefit from the concealment normally provided by darkness (though a 2nd-level or higher magical darkness effect functions normally), blur, displacement, invisibility, or similar effects.

It seems to me that Fog Cloud, which acts similar to a screen of branches and leaves, is not affected by Faerie Fire.

EDIT: Typos fixed.

I go with option B, below: "Faerie fire negates certain kinds of concealment."

 

[Pickaxe]

It doesn't seem to me that Fog Cloud, which acts similar to a screen of branches and leaves, is not affected by Faerie Fire.

Okay, I'm wondering if there is a typo here. The above statement says that you think Faerie Fire does work in fog. That appears to go against your earlier remark. I do see two ways to interpret the RAW: 1) faerie fire negates concealment, and here are some examples of concealment; or 2) faerie fire negates certain kinds of concealment. I'm certainly willing to accept either, and I'm inclined to agree that fog may not apply to faerie fire. Certainly, #2 must be true to some extent, since faerie fire should not negate the concealment creatures get when an opponent is blinded. Anyone rule on this differently?

--Axe