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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Hope" data-source="post: 2701604" data-attributes="member: 27051"><p>I would definitely check out the <em>Wilderlands of High Fantasy</em> boxed set and the <em>Player's Guide to the WIlderlands</em>. In addition to being excellent products that you can pull apart and insert piecemeal into your setting (or use as-is, if you wish), they also feature some of the sf overtones that you have mentioned without it being too obtrusive. Enough material there to keep you going for years.</p><p></p><p>I'd also second the recommendation for <em>Beyond Countless Doorways</em> from Malhavoc - another great product with plenty of ideas that you can pull apart and insert into your own setting. It also completely abandons the old model of the planes in favour of something much more evocative. <em>Manual of the Planes</em>, while mainly using the old model, also provides some ideas and approaches for taking a different approach to the planes.</p><p></p><p>You'll probably find something of use or inspiration in Eberron - it has so many elements from so many other settings and genres crammed in there that it's hard to open the book and not find something that you can use or steal. The warforged are a real hoot, and it's another setting that uses an non-standard approach to the planes - its system of planar interations and relationships is very cool.</p><p></p><p>And seeing that you are also a Dark Sun fan, I would be remiss if I didn't plug athas.org, the 3e Dark Sun site. Check out the link in my sig <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Hope, post: 2701604, member: 27051"] I would definitely check out the [i]Wilderlands of High Fantasy[/i] boxed set and the [i]Player's Guide to the WIlderlands[/i]. In addition to being excellent products that you can pull apart and insert piecemeal into your setting (or use as-is, if you wish), they also feature some of the sf overtones that you have mentioned without it being too obtrusive. Enough material there to keep you going for years. I'd also second the recommendation for [i]Beyond Countless Doorways[/i] from Malhavoc - another great product with plenty of ideas that you can pull apart and insert into your own setting. It also completely abandons the old model of the planes in favour of something much more evocative. [i]Manual of the Planes[/i], while mainly using the old model, also provides some ideas and approaches for taking a different approach to the planes. You'll probably find something of use or inspiration in Eberron - it has so many elements from so many other settings and genres crammed in there that it's hard to open the book and not find something that you can use or steal. The warforged are a real hoot, and it's another setting that uses an non-standard approach to the planes - its system of planar interations and relationships is very cool. And seeing that you are also a Dark Sun fan, I would be remiss if I didn't plug athas.org, the 3e Dark Sun site. Check out the link in my sig :)... [/QUOTE]
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