So...How are Sales of 4E Product?

[Jack99]

Why do you always have to be so nasty. Every thread I ever see you in your rude, inconsiderate and just a plain jerk.

I have no clue who you are, so I can't say that I am sorry you feel that way. I will however state that I feel your view of me is not very nuanced, and that you must only have read very few of my posts. Normally I am quite nice, but for example, when someone calls me a rabid fanboy, I see no reason to be my usual nice self.

Cheers

 

[darjr]

And now compare "a freaking lot" with "a big pile of" to see how much better 4E sells compared to 3E, please.

Ha! Move goalposts much?

It's already been stated and discussed about 4e in comparison to 3e. We already know that 4e's "a freaking lot" is higher than your "big pile".

 

[darjr]

Goodman said in an interview on YouTube that they had sold more 4E DCCs so far than they had sold 3E DCCs over the past few years.

"A freaking lot" might be bigger than Darren's "big pile".

I guess, maybe, it isn't impossible to tell which is bigger.

 

[Derren]

Ha! Move goalposts much?

It's already been stated and discussed about 4e in comparison to 3e. We already know that 4e's "a freaking lot" is higher than your "big pile".

Which is not even close to being quantifiable. 500 Books more than 3E is also "higher than 3E".

So far we only know that 4E sold better than expected. And while this technically means that 4E is so far a success, we don't know what the expectations were nor do we have any other evidence which hints at how good 4E really sells.
We don't even know if WotC was talking about selling to stores or selling to customers.

 

[darjr]

Why do you always have to be so nasty. Every thread I ever see you in your rude, inconsiderate and just a plain jerk.

I dunno, I think the rude and nasty started elsewhere in this thread.

I think it started with the whole fatal comparison, and got worse with the whole 'messiah' and 'better than sex' post.

 

[Jack99]

So far we only know that 4E sold better than expected. And while this technically means that 4E is so far a success, we don't know what the expectations were nor do we have any other evidence which hints at how good 4E really sells.
We don't even know if WotC was talking about selling to stores or selling to customers.

We know it's on it's fourth print run.
We know that the initial print run sold out quicker while being more than 50% bigger than 3.5's first print run.
We also know that the NYT best-seller list is based on actual sales to customers.

All 3 things indicating that it is more successful than other recent editions.

 

[darjr]

Which is not even close to being quantifiable. 500 Books more than 3E is also "higher than 3E".

So far we only know that 4E sold better than expected. And while this technically means that 4E is so far a success, we don't know what the expectations were nor do we have any other evidence which hints at how good 4E really sells.
We don't even know if WotC was talking about selling to stores or selling to customers.

OK, I get that we don't have hard numbers. But really, are you saying that 500 books more than what 3E sold is only 'technically' a success? Were 3E sales so bad?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Amazon sells directly to the consumer. Being ranked 25th for 2008 is a whopping big hint that it sold well to customers. Are we reading the same thread?

 

[Dice4Hire]

Why do you always have to be so nasty. Every thread I ever see you in your rude, inconsiderate and just a plain jerk.

If you think so, report him to the moderators and let them deal with it.

 

[Delta]

Goodman said in an interview on YouTube that they had sold more 4E DCCs so far than they had sold 3E DCCs over the past few years.

Link?

 

[darjr]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro8m68uVjpM"]YouTube - Some Good 3.5 Deals[/ame]

It's at the very end and I gotta say it isn't very clear what he said. I think he says that for 4e he already has preorders that exceed 3e for the last couple years.

I'm not sure, exactly, what he means, and it's from GenCon.