So how do we respond?

Keeping playing D&D but not spending any money on wotc products probably sends a stronger message than abandoning D&D completely. wotc will see that the game is still popular but earnings are still going down.
this looks like (and I know it is well intentioned and not what I am saying it looks like but looks like) something a corp person would WANT out as an idea... "Don't buy our books just give us lots of talk and name recognition... you will show us how bad we are when you keep our product relevant and in the popular side of things... keep playing"

If you want to hurt them move on. SPend that money elsewhere. Tell everyone you know "D&D is dead, Rifts is the game to play now" and tell them every chance you get. Show them as Rifts booms even if it doesn't MATCH D&D just let them see the money flow

I choose rifts since it was the first TTRPG I learned but insert TORG, Vampire, Savage worlds, Fate, what ever
 

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Incenjucar

Legend
So basically a thread where a lot of people who don’t spend much money with WOTC state how they aren’t going to spend any more money with WOTC, and explain why they don’t need to, urging other people to do the same…

… and we wonder why WOTC wants to revise the license situation?

🙄🙈
I guess if you count thousands or tens of thousands of dollars as not much money.
 

Vaalingrade

Legend
So basically a thread where a lot of people who don’t spend much money with WOTC state how they aren’t going to spend any more money with WOTC, and explain why they don’t need to, urging other people to do the same…

… and we wonder why WOTC wants to revise the license situation?

🙄🙈
Yup. Really funny and droll as long as you don't think about the ruined careers and hungry homeless children this could result in!
 

TheSword

Legend
Yup. Really funny and droll as long as you don't think about the ruined careers and hungry homeless children this could result in!
It’s not funny. I’m on the record as saying it is a shame…

… and the direct result of the success of 3pp, and people effectively playing 5e but not contributing to WOTC because they play through the lens of AIME or Level Up or any number of alternatives.

When you look at it in hindsight, how can any corporate entity not act to protect its interest in those circumstances. The community has made the Rod of Lordly Might for its own back. Or in another sense are victims of their own success.
 

Incenjucar

Legend
It’s not funny. I’m on the record as saying it is a shame…

… and the direct result of the success of 3pp, and people effectively playing 5e but not contributing to WOTC because they play through the lens of AIME or Level Up or any number of alternatives.

When you look at it in hindsight, how can any corporate entity not act to protect its interest in those circumstances. The community has literally made the Rod for its own back. Or in another sense are victims of their own success.
This doesn't sync with the fact that they've been doing better than they ever have. They're not an underdog here.
 

J.Quondam

CR 1/8
… and the direct result of the success of 3pp, and people effectively playing 5e but not contributing to WOTC because they play through the lens of AIME or Level Up or any number of alternatives.
But people very clearly are contributing to WotC. I mean, that's precisely why they're the successful 900 lb gorilla that they are.

Unlike many creators and small publishers that could be wiped out by the license "update", WotC is absolutely not suffering financially by the current OGL. Arguably, WotC's immense success is largely because of the OGL1.0 and the creators it has enabled, not despite it.
 


TheSword

Legend
This doesn't sync with the fact that they've been doing better than they ever have. They're not an underdog here.
Neither are they a charity. It’s their corporate responsibility to make profit for their shareholders.

I’m sure they want to do that with a thriving D&D community but my bet is that they think that the big players are in too deep to cut tail and run, and if they aren’t well DMsGuild fulfills a similar purpose for them.
 

Incenjucar

Legend
Neither are they a charity. It’s their corporate responsibility to make profit for their shareholders.

I’m sure they want to do that with a thriving D&D community but my bet is that they think that the big players are in too deep to cut tail and run, and if they aren’t well DMsGuild fulfills a similar purpose for them.
The player base is also not a charity, and we owe them nothing.
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
The player base is also not a charity, and we owe them nothing.
This is the “downside” of the old argument that RPGs, despite being expensive to get into, are actually cheap in the long run because they offer a massive amount of entertainment for few dollars. Once you get in, you can play forever without buying anything ever again. Which is why it’s inherently difficult to sell just rules for a game of imagination.
 

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