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So, I kind of want to stay with 2014 rules. What are my longterm options?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 9430538" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>My suggestion . . . consider purchasing the 2024 books, and simply create house rules that add back in the 2014 rules that you like.</p><p></p><p>You could pick up one of the alternate 5E rulesets (Tales of the Valiant, Level Up, Nimble), but . . . you'd likely have the same problem. You'd likely enjoy some of the changes, but not all.</p><p></p><p>And really, some of your concerns over the new rules are overblown.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats in both rules sets don't really change. In both 2014 and 2024, you can choose between ASIs and feats. It's just how they are presented that changes, with ASIs being described as a feat in the 2024 rules.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2024 backgrounds ARE customizable, but that info will be in the DMG. And even before we get the DMG, it's super easy to do anyway.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Attribute bonuses moving from species to background . . . easy to houserule it to free-floating like in Tasha's. And you can either use the 2014 backgrounds, or the 2024 backgrounds depending on whether you like feats attached or not.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The class changes are harder to get around smoothly, but an easy houserule is to have all players choose their subclasses at first level even if the relevant abilities don't kick in till 3rd. Or maybe come up with something cool for each subclass to get at 1st level. Or just ask your players to use the 2014 classes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">But really . . . each of your players should be able to build their PCs with any of the 5E rulesets, 2014, 2024, ToV, etc, without major impact on your DMing . . . .</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Allow the half-elf and half-orc from the 2014 rules as species options. Simple.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The rest of your complaints are you being "salty". Get over it.</li> </ul><p>A lot of folks will continue to use the 2014 rules, not necessarily because they don't care for the new 2024 rules, but for other reasons. They aren't even aware of the newer rules, they don't want to purchase new books, their current games are going just fine . . . . y'all will be fine for years to come. The only incompatibility will be with newer player options, and there is plenty of official and 3rd party support for the current 2014 rules to keep folks busy for a long time.</p><p></p><p>Eventually, yes, your 2014 books will fall apart and you'll want new ones . . . you'll be able to purchase used copies for a time, but eventually you'll probably end up picking up the 2024 rules . . . or the 2034 rules . . . life moves forward, learn to adapt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 9430538, member: 18182"] My suggestion . . . consider purchasing the 2024 books, and simply create house rules that add back in the 2014 rules that you like. You could pick up one of the alternate 5E rulesets (Tales of the Valiant, Level Up, Nimble), but . . . you'd likely have the same problem. You'd likely enjoy some of the changes, but not all. And really, some of your concerns over the new rules are overblown. [LIST] [*]Feats in both rules sets don't really change. In both 2014 and 2024, you can choose between ASIs and feats. It's just how they are presented that changes, with ASIs being described as a feat in the 2024 rules. [*]2024 backgrounds ARE customizable, but that info will be in the DMG. And even before we get the DMG, it's super easy to do anyway. [*]Attribute bonuses moving from species to background . . . easy to houserule it to free-floating like in Tasha's. And you can either use the 2014 backgrounds, or the 2024 backgrounds depending on whether you like feats attached or not. [*]The class changes are harder to get around smoothly, but an easy houserule is to have all players choose their subclasses at first level even if the relevant abilities don't kick in till 3rd. Or maybe come up with something cool for each subclass to get at 1st level. Or just ask your players to use the 2014 classes. [*]But really . . . each of your players should be able to build their PCs with any of the 5E rulesets, 2014, 2024, ToV, etc, without major impact on your DMing . . . . [*]Allow the half-elf and half-orc from the 2014 rules as species options. Simple. [*]The rest of your complaints are you being "salty". Get over it. [/LIST] A lot of folks will continue to use the 2014 rules, not necessarily because they don't care for the new 2024 rules, but for other reasons. They aren't even aware of the newer rules, they don't want to purchase new books, their current games are going just fine . . . . y'all will be fine for years to come. The only incompatibility will be with newer player options, and there is plenty of official and 3rd party support for the current 2014 rules to keep folks busy for a long time. Eventually, yes, your 2014 books will fall apart and you'll want new ones . . . you'll be able to purchase used copies for a time, but eventually you'll probably end up picking up the 2024 rules . . . or the 2034 rules . . . life moves forward, learn to adapt. [/QUOTE]
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