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<blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4923004" data-attributes="member: 51325"><p>Hmm...perhaps a better judge would be the number of distinct entires such as feats and powers (although again, this is hard to judge since while spellcasters spells easily map to the powers, there's no equivalent for the martial classes)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep in mind for example, that in 3.x DRAGON would have to use about a quarter of the page to just put the class on a table format since at a glance you needed to know what the F/R/W, spellcasting increase, to hit increase etc... would be. This isn't present for 4e paragon classes/epic destinies.</p><p></p><p>I pulled out DRAGON 283 to compare and here's what I got.</p><p></p><p>DO it yourself Deities (8 pages)</p><p>- basicaly how to create your own pantheon and what domains are associated with what deity (kind of similar to what we got just in the compiled DRAGON)</p><p></p><p>Champions of Virtue (8 pages)</p><p>- 4 Prestige Classes for divine focused characters (1st appearance of the "why are you remaining a NORMAL cleric" Radiant Servant of Pelor - seriously, even back then, surely someone must have thought, "hmm, this PrC seems to have absolutely no drawbacks and just gives out the beanies, perhaps we need to slap it with only a 8 or 9/10 spellcasting increase?")</p><p></p><p>Playing the priestly part ( 5 pages)</p><p>- Roleplaying advice. No crunch really</p><p></p><p>Realistic Religion (5 pages)</p><p>- Articles on using real-world mythology archtypes to make up your own religion. Like the "Do it yourself deities" article, only crunch is what domains go with what mythical influence such as the Green Man </p><p></p><p></p><p>Foes of Stormweather (6 pages)</p><p>- Basically, the characters from the novel, The Shattered Mask are given brief history and writeups. This is a prime example of where the lack of the Compendium is really felt. I always had problems using such writeups but with the compendium and monster builder it makes my life so easy.</p><p></p><p>VS Treants (1 page)</p><p>- article on how to best fight Treants (no actual crunch listed)</p><p></p><p>Class Act (2 pages)</p><p>- Prestige Class (the flame steward). Really, this could be 1 page but thanks to the art and the table it takes up 2 pages.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The rest of the 114 pages is taken up by reviews, scale mail, gary on a soapbox, ads, fiction, comics etc.</p><p></p><p>YIKES. you know, I never really realized how little crunch there was in DRAGON during this era. A lot of the stuff that we paid for back in the day are now stuff readily available on the web.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AllisterH, post: 4923004, member: 51325"] Hmm...perhaps a better judge would be the number of distinct entires such as feats and powers (although again, this is hard to judge since while spellcasters spells easily map to the powers, there's no equivalent for the martial classes) Keep in mind for example, that in 3.x DRAGON would have to use about a quarter of the page to just put the class on a table format since at a glance you needed to know what the F/R/W, spellcasting increase, to hit increase etc... would be. This isn't present for 4e paragon classes/epic destinies. I pulled out DRAGON 283 to compare and here's what I got. DO it yourself Deities (8 pages) - basicaly how to create your own pantheon and what domains are associated with what deity (kind of similar to what we got just in the compiled DRAGON) Champions of Virtue (8 pages) - 4 Prestige Classes for divine focused characters (1st appearance of the "why are you remaining a NORMAL cleric" Radiant Servant of Pelor - seriously, even back then, surely someone must have thought, "hmm, this PrC seems to have absolutely no drawbacks and just gives out the beanies, perhaps we need to slap it with only a 8 or 9/10 spellcasting increase?") Playing the priestly part ( 5 pages) - Roleplaying advice. No crunch really Realistic Religion (5 pages) - Articles on using real-world mythology archtypes to make up your own religion. Like the "Do it yourself deities" article, only crunch is what domains go with what mythical influence such as the Green Man Foes of Stormweather (6 pages) - Basically, the characters from the novel, The Shattered Mask are given brief history and writeups. This is a prime example of where the lack of the Compendium is really felt. I always had problems using such writeups but with the compendium and monster builder it makes my life so easy. VS Treants (1 page) - article on how to best fight Treants (no actual crunch listed) Class Act (2 pages) - Prestige Class (the flame steward). Really, this could be 1 page but thanks to the art and the table it takes up 2 pages. The rest of the 114 pages is taken up by reviews, scale mail, gary on a soapbox, ads, fiction, comics etc. YIKES. you know, I never really realized how little crunch there was in DRAGON during this era. A lot of the stuff that we paid for back in the day are now stuff readily available on the web. [/QUOTE]
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