So say you are lawful good ......
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Aeric
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It seems to me that a Lawful Good person would first try and affect change by working within the system. Then again, elections, free speech, etc. are not typically associated with Lawful Evil regimes, so it would probably be impossible to do that. In a situation such as this, I think a Lawful Good character would work outside of the law to a certain degree, although he would never go so far as to support assassinations, terrorism, etc. A rebellion led by a Lawful character would probably be a lot more successful than one led by a Chaotic character, because Lawful characters are more inclined towards teamwork and organization.
ThoughtBubble
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Why do I feel like I'm stepping into a pit trap?
Yes.
So how are you defining lawful? And for that matter, is it EEVEELL with a capital E, or self centered, or what? Is the entire government/society corrupt, or just a few key individuals?
Yes.
So how are you defining lawful? And for that matter, is it EEVEELL with a capital E, or self centered, or what? Is the entire government/society corrupt, or just a few key individuals?
Red Wyrmling
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Lawfull Good doesn't mean he follows every law strictly. If the character is in a society that is lawfull evil and where this alignement is reflected in the laws, I don't thin the LG charcter would be inclined to follow those laws.
He could very well go about sneaking around and setting slaves free, knowing that direct opposition or face to face challenges would mean death for him.
If it serves the cause without endangering his code of conduct then I'm sure the LG character would do something about it!
He could very well go about sneaking around and setting slaves free, knowing that direct opposition or face to face challenges would mean death for him.
If it serves the cause without endangering his code of conduct then I'm sure the LG character would do something about it!
Sejs
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Yes, you can start a rebellion against a Lawful Evil society.
Lawful alignment just means you are a disciplined, orderly, organized individual. It has no bearing on a character's relation to legislation - the Mafia would be a prime example. They're lawful, they break laws. Lawful = organized, Chaotic = freewheeling. An organized rebellion against a corrupt state is a lawful act. Just setting slaves free to then fend for themselves and generally running around causing random havoc to destabilize the state would be the chaotic way to achieve the same ends. Lawful characters would tend to think of the welfare and rights of a group, whereas a chaotic character would be more concerned with the welfare and rights of the individuals that make up that group. Generally speaking.
Like many, many things in D&D the act itself has no alignment inherrant to it. You can enact a regime change for good or ill, for lawful or chaotic reasons. The act is just an act - it's the motivations behind why the act is done, and how the act is carried out that determine what kind of act it is in the end.
Lawful alignment just means you are a disciplined, orderly, organized individual. It has no bearing on a character's relation to legislation - the Mafia would be a prime example. They're lawful, they break laws. Lawful = organized, Chaotic = freewheeling. An organized rebellion against a corrupt state is a lawful act. Just setting slaves free to then fend for themselves and generally running around causing random havoc to destabilize the state would be the chaotic way to achieve the same ends. Lawful characters would tend to think of the welfare and rights of a group, whereas a chaotic character would be more concerned with the welfare and rights of the individuals that make up that group. Generally speaking.
Like many, many things in D&D the act itself has no alignment inherrant to it. You can enact a regime change for good or ill, for lawful or chaotic reasons. The act is just an act - it's the motivations behind why the act is done, and how the act is carried out that determine what kind of act it is in the end.
ThoughtBubble said:
I tend to define lawful as "non chaotic" as opposed to "follows all the laws" Although following ummmmm "good" (ie non corrupt) laws is part of it. I lean much more towards the "ordered/disciplined" version of lawful.
say it's a society in which open slave auctions are held. So slavery is either allowed or turned a blind eye to.
Although the situation I will be facing sooner than that is one in which a local mine owner pretty much bought off the city council, pays his workers less than they can live on, and is refusing to do business with anyone that trades with us. (krekket from "of sound mind", we kinda got off on the wrong foot and he stayed there) We decided to make a new town and invite all his miners to mine for us, we set up a trade caravan to and from the nearest big town to supply any merchants/innkeepers affected by this, and are buying goods at a fair price from local farmers. I suspect in this case it is just "a few (1) key individual that is lawful selfish. The slavery issue I haven't come across yet.
The Character is a LG ascetic monk worshiping pistis and Ilmater using her share of the party treasury to open a free school in part of the mine.
Aaron L
Hero
Of course a Lawful Good person would start a revolution against a Lawful Evil society. Don't seperate Lawfulness from Goodness. The alignment should be considered lawfulgood; they arent seperate.
Would a LG person tolerate a society in which slavery was the norm, bribery and blackmail were accepted ways of social advencement, and justice could be bought? Don't think the just because it is orderly means that LG should tolerate it. LG should oppose Lawful Evil as vehemently as it opposes Chaotic Evil.
Would a LG person tolerate a society in which slavery was the norm, bribery and blackmail were accepted ways of social advencement, and justice could be bought? Don't think the just because it is orderly means that LG should tolerate it. LG should oppose Lawful Evil as vehemently as it opposes Chaotic Evil.
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ConcreteBuddha
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You can do whatever the heck you want...
Let the DM determine what happens afterwards.
Every DM I've known has a different take on alignment. Figure out what your DM will do. Our opinions don't really matter.
Let the DM determine what happens afterwards.
Every DM I've known has a different take on alignment. Figure out what your DM will do. Our opinions don't really matter.
ConcreteBuddha said:You can do whatever the heck you want...
Let the DM determine what happens afterwards.
Every DM I've known has a different take on alignment. Figure out what your DM will do. Our opinions don't really matter.
Of course I can. Me being more chaotic than lawful in RL though prefer to use you as my "sober second thought".
Please note "sober second thought" does not equal "The enworlders said I could so I can waaaaaaaaah"
"Sober second thought" does equal "well it sounded good what if any fall out is there"
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