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So, some friends of ours have learned about "Planet X" in school...

I love the "moon landing was a hoax" people. I like to skewer them with Occam's Razor:

Which is more plausible:

1. Through rapid advances in technology and based on well-understood physical principals and through the expenditure of enormous amounts of time and money, we were able to send men to the Moon.

or

2. A massive, far reaching conspiracy was created, encompassing all levels of government, media, and science both in the U.S. and abroad, that has been successfully hidden for decades.

Humph!
 

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CarpBrain said:
I did find out who was teaching them that the moon landing was a hoax!
Now I'm gonna have an eye twitch all day long. . .


My main arguement for why Pluto should not be regarded as a planet is that its (highly eccentric) orbit does not follow the same plane that Mercury through Neptune do.

A secondary argument is that its orbit is so eccentric that it is SOMETIMES more distant from the sun than Neptune, but sometimes closer.

Finally, my tertiary, and nit-picky, reason is that Pluto is so small in relation to its satelitte, Charon, that the two sort of tumble along together as a twin body: so why is Pluto a planet and Charon is not? Because it's the larger of a pair.
 

Oddly enough, none of those are good reasons for excluding it from planethood, although why Charon isn't a planet and the entire system called a double-planet system does somewhat elude me.

The main reason for objecting to Pluto being a planet is that it is part of a population; the Kuiper Belt. That was the reason Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, etc. were demoted from planets to asteroids, and that's the main objection to Pluto.

Due to historical reasons, though, I suspect that what is and isn't a planet will be an arbitrary size cut-off at Pluto itself, which doesn't really satisfy most planetary astronomers.
 


Joshua Dyal said:
Due to historical reasons, though, I suspect that what is and isn't a planet will be an arbitrary size cut-off at Pluto itself, which doesn't really satisfy most planetary astronomers.
And it shouldn't satisfy us, either.

I say let the experts decide facts in their own field of expertise. I'm perfectly happy to let planetary astronomers decide what is and is not a planet.

One of my linguistics professors had to track down a teacher at one of the local high schools to get him to stop teaching that the etymology of the word "woman" amounted to "womb" + "man." Just because you don't have the facts doesn't mean that you should go spewing forth ignorance. e.g. like I apparently did in my previous post. :heh:
 

Vigwyn the Unruly said:
Oh, for crying out loud!

<hangs head and sighs>

<looks back up with mischievious grin>

Kentucky, huh?

Actually, no. I just moved here so I'm not sure how good or bad education is here, so I'd hate for this state to get a worse name that it already has. The story I told above took place in a county just outside of Columbus, Ohio.
 

Teflon Billy said:
Defense? Pah!

DungeonMasterCal will be my Minister of Offense
Can I be Minister of Sarcasm? It would make my mother soooo proud. Y'know, prouder than she already is to have a son who posts on messageboards on a beautiful day.
 

Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Can I be Minister of Sarcasm? It would make my mother soooo proud. Y'know, prouder than she already is to have a son who posts on messageboards on a beautiful day.
*yoinked* for my .sig file.

Not that I ever actually use any of the quotes in my .sig file, but I very well could if I wanted to!
 

CarpBrain said:
I would proceed to mention Sedna and Quaror and point out the Kupier Belt again, but they would assure me that they were taught there was a Planet X beyond Pluto. I could never find out who it was exactly that was teaching them that, but I did find out who was teaching them that the moon landing was a hoax!
Next you'll be babbling that the sun isn't on fire either Carp... ;)

You should've taken me up on my offer to teach your class for a day. I would've taught them a thing or two about science...
 

freebfrost said:
Next you'll be babbling that the sun isn't on fire either Carp... ;)

Yep, and metals can never be gases and concrete can't sway like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge either. Of course, they didn't believe me then either. You'd think I was trying to teach them that they can fly if they have fairy dust!
 

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