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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FalcWP" data-source="post: 3856440" data-attributes="member: 16858">See, I don't see them *starting* as larger-than-life, though they can certainly get there a lot faster than they might in Faerun or other settings.  My point was more that, in an Eberron game, it tends to make sense that the PCs are the ones taking on dangerous and important jobs - you don't have to stop and think, "Now, why would the setting's superpowered archmage not be taking care of this vital task?" since there really isn't one.  It also means that, if they fail, there could be serious, long-term consequences for Eberron as a whole, since there isn't a safety net of a bunch of epic-level folks to sweep in and fix things.  That's something that really appeals to me.As for wanting the characters to be more Indiana Jones than the X-Men... there's plenty of room for both in the 'Have the PCs be the heroes' concept.  Take Raiders of the Lost Ark - at the end of the movie, Indy has deprived the Nazis of a very powerful weapon (never mind the fact that they couldn't exactly use it...), he's gotten well paid by the US government, and he got the girl.  The only thing that keeps him from being a huge hero is the way the government handled things - rather than getting his name and face on the front page of every newspaper in America, they boxed up the Ark and put it in the warehouse.  Was Indy still *the* hero?  I don't see how you could argue otherwise.  He meets all the regular criteria - he got the girl, he survived, he was on the side of the good guys, and his name was (retroactively) in the title.  Was there a high-powered safety net in case Indy failed?  Well, beyond the fact that the Ark sorta didn't like the Nazis (and really, can you blame it?), not that I see.  If there was another solution, you have to imagine that the government would have used it before allowing an outsider like Indy to get involved - otherwise, they'd have just asked him who Abner Ravenwood was and they'd have been off to Nepal.  Would he have been more or less a hero if the government had made the whole thing public?  And if he would have, doesn't that mean that your issue is with how the characters are seen by the rest of the world, rather than the characters themselves?</blockquote>

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