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<blockquote data-quote="Hairfoot" data-source="post: 3870152" data-attributes="member: 23732"><p>Largely due to my comments.</p><p></p><p>This is something that has always troubled me with Eberron. I hated it at the outset, but gradually grew to like it in - in some respects.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, if you say that you like Eberron, but don't love and adore it to the exclusion of all other settings, you're attacked by Eberrophiles for failing to see its all-encompassing brilliance, and resented by old-schoolers for giving credence to a setting which features robots as a core race.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To recap:</p><p></p><p></p><p>That was overly critical. I <em>do</em> think that some players choose unusual races to compensate for creating interesting PCs, i.e. a a dwarf fighter is common and dull, but a warforged fighter is novel <em>just for being what it is</em>, without any characterisation or embellishment necessary.</p><p></p><p>I believe that some players may be able to portray a PC of an exotic race as a truly original and interesting character. I just haven't seen it in the last 20 years of D&D I've played.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I imagine you mean to say that those actions aren't possible within a single round, but my point is that the rules allow a character to jump thirty feet in the first place - a concept which takes suspension of disbelief and wipes its arse with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The latter. Being heroes of the campaign is the whole point of playing, but I don't find it motivating when a sixth-level PC can say "great! I'm the strongest (insert class) in the nation. I'd better find an army to destroy or command."</p><p></p><p></p><p>All of this comes down to a simple, individual judgement: Eberron is a novel and compelling setting which I find inspiring. It is perfect for players who embrace the 3E model of superhero PCs who are destined for greatness and stand head and shoulders above all NPCs.</p><p></p><p>However, for players who prefer adventures and adventurers to take place on a more mortal, modest level, the setting requires some modification.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hairfoot, post: 3870152, member: 23732"] Largely due to my comments. This is something that has always troubled me with Eberron. I hated it at the outset, but gradually grew to like it in - in some respects. Unfortunately, if you say that you like Eberron, but don't love and adore it to the exclusion of all other settings, you're attacked by Eberrophiles for failing to see its all-encompassing brilliance, and resented by old-schoolers for giving credence to a setting which features robots as a core race. To recap: That was overly critical. I [I]do[/I] think that some players choose unusual races to compensate for creating interesting PCs, i.e. a a dwarf fighter is common and dull, but a warforged fighter is novel [I]just for being what it is[/I], without any characterisation or embellishment necessary. I believe that some players may be able to portray a PC of an exotic race as a truly original and interesting character. I just haven't seen it in the last 20 years of D&D I've played. I imagine you mean to say that those actions aren't possible within a single round, but my point is that the rules allow a character to jump thirty feet in the first place - a concept which takes suspension of disbelief and wipes its arse with it. The latter. Being heroes of the campaign is the whole point of playing, but I don't find it motivating when a sixth-level PC can say "great! I'm the strongest (insert class) in the nation. I'd better find an army to destroy or command." All of this comes down to a simple, individual judgement: Eberron is a novel and compelling setting which I find inspiring. It is perfect for players who embrace the 3E model of superhero PCs who are destined for greatness and stand head and shoulders above all NPCs. However, for players who prefer adventures and adventurers to take place on a more mortal, modest level, the setting requires some modification. [/QUOTE]
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