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So what's the problem with restrictions, especially when it comes to the Paladin?
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6112893" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I'm sorry, I should have specified pre 4e paladins...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What archetype is this? Because nothing in the class description makes the paladin a mindless robot who never questions himself or his faith. In the same way a knight can choose to serve a lord (and gain the benefits of it), a paladin still has choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You do realize D&D does not equal "earth in the past" right? So I'm confused as to what the viewpoint being modern or not matters especially since there is plenty of fantasy that espouses modern viewpoints concerning morality?? As to your example... I think it's loyalty vs. love (same as the conflict Anakin faces as a Jedi), but then it ultimately depends on what version of the story you reference. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it seems you have chosen your own vision of what a paladin should be as opposed to what is or isn't a part of the class description and mechanics. In 3.5 a paladin can fail to recognize his potential as a paladin, or even deny his call to paladinhood. In other words, while having the potential to be a paladin... a paladin also still has free will. While the paladin in 4e is just a warrior who pledges to fight for a divine cause in return for having rituals performed upon him that grant him divine power... if anything the 4e divine-merc paladin is the most similar to a warlock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6112893, member: 48965"] I'm sorry, I should have specified pre 4e paladins... What archetype is this? Because nothing in the class description makes the paladin a mindless robot who never questions himself or his faith. In the same way a knight can choose to serve a lord (and gain the benefits of it), a paladin still has choice. You do realize D&D does not equal "earth in the past" right? So I'm confused as to what the viewpoint being modern or not matters especially since there is plenty of fantasy that espouses modern viewpoints concerning morality?? As to your example... I think it's loyalty vs. love (same as the conflict Anakin faces as a Jedi), but then it ultimately depends on what version of the story you reference. Again, it seems you have chosen your own vision of what a paladin should be as opposed to what is or isn't a part of the class description and mechanics. In 3.5 a paladin can fail to recognize his potential as a paladin, or even deny his call to paladinhood. In other words, while having the potential to be a paladin... a paladin also still has free will. While the paladin in 4e is just a warrior who pledges to fight for a divine cause in return for having rituals performed upon him that grant him divine power... if anything the 4e divine-merc paladin is the most similar to a warlock. [/QUOTE]
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