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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6125307" data-attributes="member: 82106">Sure, but you missed [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s point (actually two points). It is irrelevant if the DnD world's ethics are absolute or not, the rules would have to be UTTERLY UNAMBIGUOUS and we know that is impossible. Pemerton brought up 2 SIMPLE cases of ambiguity without even breaking a sweat. In a topic like this where we're talking about non-concrete situational 'rules' there is no hope of making them exact. Any such project is doomed to fail from day one. The result is just a lot more verbiage and the same DM and/or player judgment as ever. Why waste the words? It is just pointless.Secondly though the whole notion that "oh, its all just absolute world-rules" is utterly antithetical to what many of us want to do with the game. You can make up any rote set of behavioral rules you want, I'm not interested. What I want to do is explore ethics. That exploration consists of working out a pathway through ambiguous and uncertain situations in which there can never really be entirely clear rules. If you simply reduce it all to some formula of "X is right, Y is wrong" what's the point? Its like dungeon crawling through a dungeon you already know.  So, IMHO what we see is that no codification can ever hope to succeed and that the very notion of adventuring in a game where morality is just a rule you look up is objectionable and limiting. I can see playing in a game where all you do is some skirmishing and light RP and nobody cares, but in that case why have any concern about it at all?</blockquote>

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