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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6130382" data-attributes="member: 48965">Uhmmm... why does my statement need to account for the popularity of 3.x or PF? How does me stating that...1. There is more than just OD&D to cater to those who prefer a particular playstyle (which is true)and2. Stating that there may be a substantial number of players who enjoy the particular style (which cannot be proven true or false but then neither can the opposing view) and 4e didn't cater to this playstyle (debateable but then again it's my opinion and I'm upfront about that) I'm also unclear on what player's having options has to do with this? The playstyle described in the post you wrote was about a more survivalist based style of gameplay... what does that have to do with player options? You can play a survivalist, adverserial game with 3e and PF (especially at lower levels) regardless of player options, 4e's default is that you will not be playing that way and certain assumptions in it's design and advice definitely cater to a different style.Again, what does simpler have to do with this? Where am I arguing for simpler anything, I'm talking about a particular way to play the game. In fact I'm not even sure what in my post this is a reply to??I think I've answered what I could concerning your post and since I'm not even really sure what position you are taking or even what exactly in my post you are discussing we can leave it be or discuss further, it's up to you.</blockquote>

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