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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6730191" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Most of those are examples of hidden competitive agendas. None of them changes the fact that social interaction is <em>always</em> based on the overt attempt to establish cooperation. Even an ultimatum--"Surrender or die!"--is cooperative. It's a proposition for an outcome that is beneficial to both parties: I get to win without a fight, and you get to survive losing.</p><p></p><p>Now, I may be bluffing when I deliver this ultimatum. In that case I have a hidden competitive agenda, to trick you into surrendering because I can't beat you in combat. But without an offer of cooperation--sincere or not--social interaction can't even get started. Often the cooperation is as simple as "We'll chat about nothing in particular, and we'll both enjoy having had the chat." </p><p></p><p>The only social interactions that allow for open competition are those in which competition serves a larger cooperative goal (we are debating; each of us is arguing an opposing position, but our goal is to cooperatively work out the best arguments), or where there are three or more participants. In the latter case, you might have, say, the ambassadors of two warring nations openly competing with each other as they seek an alliance with the king of a neutral nation. But that conversation can only continue as long as there is a possibility of cooperation between each ambassador and the king. If the king says "To the Abyss with you both" and walks out, there's no more to be said.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 6730191, member: 58197"] Most of those are examples of hidden competitive agendas. None of them changes the fact that social interaction is [i]always[/i] based on the overt attempt to establish cooperation. Even an ultimatum--"Surrender or die!"--is cooperative. It's a proposition for an outcome that is beneficial to both parties: I get to win without a fight, and you get to survive losing. Now, I may be bluffing when I deliver this ultimatum. In that case I have a hidden competitive agenda, to trick you into surrendering because I can't beat you in combat. But without an offer of cooperation--sincere or not--social interaction can't even get started. Often the cooperation is as simple as "We'll chat about nothing in particular, and we'll both enjoy having had the chat." The only social interactions that allow for open competition are those in which competition serves a larger cooperative goal (we are debating; each of us is arguing an opposing position, but our goal is to cooperatively work out the best arguments), or where there are three or more participants. In the latter case, you might have, say, the ambassadors of two warring nations openly competing with each other as they seek an alliance with the king of a neutral nation. But that conversation can only continue as long as there is a possibility of cooperation between each ambassador and the king. If the king says "To the Abyss with you both" and walks out, there's no more to be said. [/QUOTE]
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