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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6430947" data-attributes="member: 29398">One other aspect not yet mentioned is how long this campaign is intended to last.  If it's being run as a short campaign or single adventure path and that's it then you'll need to pull out the big hammers because you don't have time to wait.  But I've found in long campaigns characters like these tend not to last (though sometimes they do) either because the player gets bored with them, the rest of the party throws them out, or random death gets them and they aren't revived; all meaning it's more possible to just go with it and let it sort itself out in the long run.Lan-"though when its an ingrained playstyle of a player it's harder to deal with"-efan</blockquote>