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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3034416" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>1) Wouldn't 16th level PCs in an Arcana Evolved world know that multiple Contigencies are possible in their world and wouldn't they do some form of Dispel Magic to negate this possibility? Granted, not all players think of all things, but this would seem at least possible, especially for caster types with high Knowledge Arcane and Spellcraft skills. Did you give them a skill roll?</p><p></p><p>2) A Petrification Contigency? And one set to fire off an hour after the fact? That sounds extremely specialized.</p><p></p><p>3) If a Giant PC pulls the Wizard out of the Bag of Holding, the Wizard is still grappled and should require a Concentration check to cast the Teleport spell. Did you do that?</p><p></p><p>4) The errata for Arcana Evolved states: "An object,creature,or location should have only one spell with this template cast on it at any one time (DM’s discretion).". Even Monte indicated that multiple contingencies should rarely be allowed.</p><p></p><p>5) We are still talking about 900 (or more) pounds. That's still a heavy load for a 28 Str Giant and it would still take effort for him to lift such an object. He would be cognizant real quick that a) the wizard does not feel like stone and b) the wizard is extremely light compared to what he expected. The wizard, on the other hand, wasn't disoriented or sleepy after spending time in the bag and was all prepared to cast a spell. Hmmm.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It still really sounds extremely DM forced to have this NPC escape. You asked for opinions as to if it was fair. I still think the answer is no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3034416, member: 2011"] 1) Wouldn't 16th level PCs in an Arcana Evolved world know that multiple Contigencies are possible in their world and wouldn't they do some form of Dispel Magic to negate this possibility? Granted, not all players think of all things, but this would seem at least possible, especially for caster types with high Knowledge Arcane and Spellcraft skills. Did you give them a skill roll? 2) A Petrification Contigency? And one set to fire off an hour after the fact? That sounds extremely specialized. 3) If a Giant PC pulls the Wizard out of the Bag of Holding, the Wizard is still grappled and should require a Concentration check to cast the Teleport spell. Did you do that? 4) The errata for Arcana Evolved states: "An object,creature,or location should have only one spell with this template cast on it at any one time (DM’s discretion).". Even Monte indicated that multiple contingencies should rarely be allowed. 5) We are still talking about 900 (or more) pounds. That's still a heavy load for a 28 Str Giant and it would still take effort for him to lift such an object. He would be cognizant real quick that a) the wizard does not feel like stone and b) the wizard is extremely light compared to what he expected. The wizard, on the other hand, wasn't disoriented or sleepy after spending time in the bag and was all prepared to cast a spell. Hmmm. It still really sounds extremely DM forced to have this NPC escape. You asked for opinions as to if it was fair. I still think the answer is no. [/QUOTE]
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