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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7821655" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I admit, I didn't see Venom. I wasn't in the mood for anti-heroes at the time. And it has been a long time since I found the character generally interesting. And, why that is speaks, to me, about the success of a movie that's got him and Spider-Man.</p><p></p><p>One of the big attractions of Spider-Man as a character is that... he's psychologically acceptable. Yes, he's a genius and a hero, but he's also... a person we can understand and care about. That means that many of his best stories arent' just about the fight between Spider-Man and Villain X. They are about the <em>relationship</em> between Spider-Man/Peter and the villain. In each of the last two Spider-Man movies, they crafted really interesting relationships that impact Spidey's choices.</p><p></p><p>In the original comic, Spider-Man as a nigh-disturbingly intimate connection to Venom. And that relationship makes a conflict between Spidey and Venom interesting. But, in this iteration of Venom... the connection isn't there. At all. </p><p></p><p>So, other than super-strange fight scenes, I don't know why they'd put them in the same movie. Nor do I think Sony <em>recognizes</em> that this is what makes Spider-Man movies interesting (leading to the lack of success of their own forays with the character). I don't think they'll try to craft a relationship, or do a good job of it if they did try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7821655, member: 177"] I admit, I didn't see Venom. I wasn't in the mood for anti-heroes at the time. And it has been a long time since I found the character generally interesting. And, why that is speaks, to me, about the success of a movie that's got him and Spider-Man. One of the big attractions of Spider-Man as a character is that... he's psychologically acceptable. Yes, he's a genius and a hero, but he's also... a person we can understand and care about. That means that many of his best stories arent' just about the fight between Spider-Man and Villain X. They are about the [I]relationship[/I] between Spider-Man/Peter and the villain. In each of the last two Spider-Man movies, they crafted really interesting relationships that impact Spidey's choices. In the original comic, Spider-Man as a nigh-disturbingly intimate connection to Venom. And that relationship makes a conflict between Spidey and Venom interesting. But, in this iteration of Venom... the connection isn't there. At all. So, other than super-strange fight scenes, I don't know why they'd put them in the same movie. Nor do I think Sony [I]recognizes[/I] that this is what makes Spider-Man movies interesting (leading to the lack of success of their own forays with the character). I don't think they'll try to craft a relationship, or do a good job of it if they did try. [/QUOTE]
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