Sophomores of Smack

[Larcen]

Darn, Best AC I can get on a 8th level human with 27,000 gps. Seems to be AC 46 with no magic items.

That being Human Barb 1/Fighter 2/Forsaker 5

Adamantine full plate, Tower shield, Expertise, and Dodge
Damage resistance 5/+2 isn't terrible at this level.

"Only" 46 AC, eh? You call THAT a smack down?

But, er, where is this Forsaker class from? Doesn't seem core to me.

 

[Macbrea]

Sorry, used a MoW. Pretty hard to get to 50 AC though with just the 2 core books.

 

[Xarlen]

Forfeited Smack; inconclusive.

 

[Caliban]

Sorry, used a MoW. Pretty hard to get to 50 AC though with just the 2 core books.

Dwarven Fighter 6/ Barbarian 1/wizard 1

Feats: Weapon Focus, Specialization, Dodge, Mobility, Expertise, Power Attack.

Skills: 5 ranks of tumble (bought cross class)

Defense:
10 (base AC)
+1 - 13 Dex
+11 - Full plate +3 (10650 gp)
+5 - Large shield +3 (9170 gp)
+2 - Protection from Evil (from scroll
+1 - Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (2,000 gp)
+1 - Dodge (one opponent only)
+4 - Mobility (when moving)
+5 - Expertise
+3 - Fighting Defensively (with Tumble Synergy bonus)
+7 - Shield spell (from scroll)
+4 - Against giants
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28 Normal AC
30 with Prot from Evil.
37 with Shield spell
38 against one opponent
43 with Expertise
46 with Expertise+fighting defensively
50 when moving (Mobility+Dodge + Expertise +Fighting Defensively)
54 when moving past a giant (Dwarven Giant bonus plus above)
(subract 2 if raging.)


Offense:
1d6+2 - +2 Heavyt Pick (8340 gp)
+7 - 24 strength (18 to start, level ups increased to 20, +4 from potion of bull strength)
+2 - +4 strength from Raging
+2 - Specialization
+6 Power Attack
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1d6+19
Crit = 4d6+76, Max damage = 100 pts.

Net attack bonus:

-5 [expertise]
-4 [fighting defensively]
-6 [power attack]
+6 [BAB]
+9 [Strength]
+2 [magic weapon]
+1 [weapon focus]
+20 [true strike]
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+23 on your first attack.
-2 on your second attack. (Anything from your second attack is pure gravy)

 

[Xarlen]

Caliban, that's disgusting.

 

[Iku Rex]

An Iku Rex smackdown [i]without[/i] Polymorph!

Premise: Dimension Door after preparations. No outside help. Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master Guide only

3rd version
(I remembered why I needed 8 Cleric levels and removed the level of Barbarian )

Half-Orc Cleric 8 of Fharlanghn (Luck and Travel)

32 point buy

Str 24
Dex 15
Con 15
Int 6
Wis 16
Cha 6
+2 Str (8 levels), +2 Str, -2 Int, -2 Cha, (Half-Orc), +4 Str (2 Bull's Strength), +3 Con (Endurance)

Feats (1,3,6):
Two-Weapon Fighting, Ambidexterity, Power Attack


Equipment (max 27000):

6000 Necklace of Prayer Beads: Karma
+4000 Periapt of Wisdom
+12000 Boots of Speed
+1500 Full Plate
= 23500 Total
+ Misc.

Spells cast (available: 1/2/3/4:5/4/4/3):
Some non-damage relevant spells included for completeness.

Expeditious Retreat (1st, domain)
Divine Favor (1st)
Shield of Faith (1st)
Aid (2nd, domain)
Bull's Strength (2nd)
Bull's Strength (2nd)
Endurance (2nd)
Fly (3rd, domain)
Prayer (3rd)
Magic Vestment (3rd)
Dimension Door (4th, domain)
Divine Power (4th)
Greater Magic Weapon (4th)
Greater Magic Weapon (4th)

AC: +1-2+8+4+4= 25

To hit bonuses and penalties:
+8/+3 BAB (DP)
+7 Str
(-2) TWF
+4 Luck, Divine Favor
+4 Enhancement , GMW
+1 Morale, Aid
-8 Power Attack

Attacks:
+16/+14/+11/+9

Damage:
3.5 QS
+4 GMW
+10/+7/+3 Str
+4 Divine Favor
+8 Power Attack

Average damage on 4 hits (one turn):
(3.5*4)[QS]+(4*4)[GWM]+10+(2*7)+3[Str]+(4*4)[Divine Favor]+(4*8) [PA]= 105 damage (+criticals)

 

[reapersaurus]

Big, Tall and Mighty.

Half orc Cleric9/Barbarian1.
Str: 18 (+4) +4(Size)+2(Gauntlets)+2(Bull's Strenght)+10(Strenght Domain)+4(Rage). +26. That's +28 if the Racial str for Half-Orcs stack. Let's not forget Two handed! So, that's another +13.

Your attack would be +10/+5(Base)+39(str)+3(GMW)+3(Divine Favor) +1(Focus). +56/+51. If you use the smite ability from the Destruction domain, that'd be a single attack for +60.

I don't believe this is close.

Your strength boni are too confusing...
Gauntlets, Bull's Strength and Strength Domain are all enhancement bonuses, so they don't stack. (from memory)

And Larcen - core rules smackdowns are too boring.
Classbooks != Unbalancing, necessarily.

I really don't think anyone can make a core damage Smackdown that can compete with a Spirited Charge/Rhino-Hide/Weapon Spec. Fighter/Cleric.

 

[Xarlen]

You're right. I'll forfeit the smack, until I retool it.

 

[Iku Rex]

I really don't think anyone can make a core damage Smackdown that can compete with a Spirited Charge/Rhino-Hide/Weapon Spec. Fighter/Cleric.

Make that an 8th level Human Cleric of St. Cuthbert.

Quick estimate: (4.5 (Lance) +13 [Str]+4 [GMW]+4 [Divine Favor]+8 [Destruction] + 8 [Power Attack - Divine Power])*4 [Spirited Charge, Rhino Hide] = 166 average damage on a charge (+ criticals)

 

[James McMurray]

Ummm... nevermind, I misread the post...