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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Holy Bovine" data-source="post: 5226532" data-attributes="member: 203">8th level.  I think it comes more from tactics and AoE placement than anything else.  There are 2 leaders (cleric & inspiring warlord) who regularly boost the paladin & ranger when possible.  The main issue for the ranger is the player running it doesn't take advantage of things like CA and staying near the warlord to get those bonuses.  Also the ranger spends a lot of time on the floor unconciuos (in the average 10 round combat she is probably down for 3 of those rounds).  She just can't seem to keep from leaping way ahead of the rest of the party to be the first to engage the enemy - she does some damage then is knocked out in the second round (this has happened more times than I can count, she seems to think that if she doesn't strike first she will never get to attack - I have another player who has a bravura warlord who suffers from the same delusion).  The sorceress in question has picked up about every AoE sorcerer power there is and does a really good job holding/delaying actions to get the most enemies into her AoEs.  I think the ranger could do more damage if she would hold back like the sorceress and let the defenders & leaders take the first wave of attacks and get the bonuses you are talking about - it just hasn't happened in my games.</blockquote>