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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6425307" data-attributes="member: 14506">I did not realize what a hot button topic this was. There are some seriously entrenched sides or steeldragons has set upon a very flammable  straw man. For me, what I was hoping this thread would uncover is that a sorcerer with a smaller potential list of spells they can learn is not serving everyone best. Someone else said it well, with 60 flavors out of 120 to cook a goblin you are not really seeing the versatility there. An innate caster is limited by not knowing many spells but in my opinion can learn any spell. I can also see any spell within a theme too. A psion is a type of innate caster. The sorcerer is a type of innate caster.These are different than a cleric or warlock who are granted their powers each day from some external power source.These are different than a bard or wizard who unlock magical mysteries of the universe through specialized training and knowledge. For innate casters what is your theme for them?</blockquote>