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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Delandel" data-source="post: 6640098" data-attributes="member: 81364">I'll add my voice that OP's analysis is spot-on with my experiences.I've played a Sorcerer from levels 1-7. Also have played Vengeance Paladin and Life Cleric. I've seen all the classes played until at least level 5, and some up to level 10.For the record, here is my sorcerer's current <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1pdYIcfHauwYTB6cU1lWEZSdTQ/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">spell list.</a> It's not as robust as some people make it sound like.My issues with sorcerers are:1) Too limited spell list. It's a balancing point, yes. The CONCEPT is a sound one. It's just that Wizards got their number wrong. I think they've pretty much acknowledged this by giving the new sorcerer subclasses bonus spells. If the PHB was allowed a rework, I'm certain they would have done the same for Dragon and Wild.2) Metamagic is the big draw to the class but it too is incredibly limited. You know two at 3rd. Then the next one you get is at 10th I believe. Finally the fourth at 17th. You also DO NOT get to tretrain these metamagics, like you would with spells or invocations. I took Twin and Empowered. I decided later on that I don't like Empowered and would rather Quicken -- well tough, gotta wait until 10th level, and even then I'm stuck with Empowered forever.3) Metamagic and regaining spells share the same resource. How I wish I could regain spells the Wizard way instead of needing to spend Sorcery Points.So basically what OP said.Unfortunately, I highly doubt Wizards are going to rework anything in the PHB, so even if Wizards agrees with these complaints it's not like they'll do anything to existing classes.The good news is that new subclasses sort of "fix" issues as best they can. Both Favored Soul and Stormborn sorcerers get bonus spells. I doubt this is a coincidence, but an acknowledgment that sorcerers got too few in the PHB.</blockquote>

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