Special Conversion Thread: Angels (and possibly other heavenly creatures)

[Leopold]

What about Neutral good? The balance between law and chaos but more focused on good.

I'm reading over Encyclopedia of Angels by FFE (painful but helpful) and several angels in there are NG which would make some sense. Of course there are others that are CG as well. Good seems to be the only sticking point, which shade mentioned above on my comment.

 

[Shade]

These fellas have the same HD as planetars, but seem like they'd be a bit lower in the hierarchy.

Astral Deva scores: Str 22, Dex 18, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 18, Cha 20
Planetar scores: Str 25, Dex 19, Con 20, Int 22, Wis 23, Cha 22

Since these guys seem more melee-oriented, how about the following?

Planetar scores: Str 24, Dex 18, Con 20, Int 16, Wis 17, Cha 20?

 

[freyar]

Let's leave the alignment the same as the core angels.

Slightly weaker than planetars? Sounds good to me.

 

[demiurge1138]

Agreed to slighty weaker than planetars. Aiming at a CR 15.

 

[Shade]

Agreed to slighty weaker than planetars. Aiming at a CR 15.

Agreed, and the lack of 17th-level clerical spellcasting outta help.

Added to Homebrews.

You know, these guys are 3 feet taller than planetars, and their exceptional strength is highlighted. I'm thinking we should boost Str and Con beyond the planetar to differentiate them a bit more.

Planetars have +3 greatswords. I'd recommend giving these fellas +3 cold iron weapons or +2 demonbane cold iron weapons.

I ported the SLAs from the original description, borrowing uses per day from the planetar (and nerfing ressurection to raise dead, like the planetar). I'm thinking we should add a few more "demon-fighting" SLAs, like holy smite and dispel evil. Thoughts?

 

[demiurge1138]

Agreed to +2 cold iron evil outsider bane weapons, higher Str and Con, and dispel evil and holy smite as SLAs. Dimensional anchor is also a good demon-hunting trick, so they can't get away.

 

[Shade]

Nice call on dim anchor!

Updated.

I left a greatsword in place, but we can change to another weapon if desired. A big, beefy sword seems appropriate, though.

They add +3 to the morale of any Good creature who can see them.

Greater heroism aura?

 

[demiurge1138]

Ooh. Aura of greater heroism I like.

 

[freyar]

I like all that.

Instead of the greatsword, are there any angels that use a bastard sword? Might be a fun point of differentiation if not.

 

[Shade]

Nope. All core angels have a greatsword or mace.

I'm fine with a bastard sword, though. Maybe add a shield to further emphasize their martial focus?