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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shade" data-source="post: 4248152" data-attributes="member: 287">In 2e, hill giants were +7 damage.  Hill giants have Str 25 now.Here's one attempt at modify the frenzied berserker's ability to stonecrown ogres:Blood Frenzy (Ex):  If a stonecrown ogre takes damage from an attack, spell, trap, or any other source, it automatically enters a blood frenzy at the start of its next action, as long as it has at least one daily usage of the ability left. To avoid entering a frenzy in response to damage, the stonecrown ogre must make a successful Will save (DC 10 + points of damage suffered since its last action) at the start of its next action.While frenzied, it gains a +6 bonus to Strength and, if it makes a full attack action, gains a single extra attack each round at its highest bonus. (This latter effect is not cumulative with haste or other effects that grant additional attacks.) However, it also takes a -4 penalty to Armor Class and takes 2 points of nonlethal damage per round. A blood frenzy lasts for a number of rounds equal to 3 + the stonecrown ogre's Constitution modifier. To end the frenzy before its duration expires, the stonecrown ogre may attempt a DC 20 Will save once per round as a free action. Success ends the frenzy immediately; failure means it continues. The effects of frenzy stack with those from any rage ability the character might have.While frenzied, the stonecrown ogre cannot use any Charisma-, Dexterity-, or Intelligence-based skills (except for Intimidate), the Concentration skill, or any abilities that require patience or concentration, nor can it cast spells, drink potions, activate magic items, or read scrolls. It can use any feat it has except Combat Expertise, item creation feats, or metamagic feats. When a blood frenzy ends, the stonecrown ogre is fatigued (-2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity, unable to charge or run) for the duration of the encounter. If the ogre is still under the effect of a rage ability, the fatigued condition does not apply until the rage ends--at which point the ogre is exhausted, not merely fatigued....or, we could go much simpler...Blood Frenzy (Ex):  If a stonecrown ogre takes damage from an attack, spell, trap, or any other source, it automatically enters a blood frenzy at the start of its next action.  While in a blood frenzy, the ogre gains a single extra attack each round at its highest bonus when making a full attack.  The blood frenzy lasts for the duration of the encounter, after which the stonecrown ogre is fatigued.</blockquote>

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