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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4404331" data-attributes="member: 57383">By the way, when you said examples for each size, do you fancy any bigger than Large? I statted up a few Huge burning zombies (Megaraptor, Triceratops, Tyrannosaurus), partially to see how they'd work but mostly 'cause I like dinosaurs. I've left in most of their Special Attacks, but it'd be simple enough to drop them. A Triceratops Burning Zombie is nasty if it keeps its Trample attack.   Megaraptor Burning Zombie   Type: Huge Construct   Hit Dice: 12d10+43 (109 hp)   Initiative: +1   Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)   Armor Class: 21 (-2 size, +1 Dex, +12 natural), touch 9, flat-footed 20   Base Attack/Grapple: +8/+22   Attack: Bite +12 melee (2d6+6 plus 3d6 fire) or talons +12 melee (2d8+5)   Full Attack: Bite +12 melee (2d6+6 plus 3d6 fire) and talons +7 melee (2d8+3) and 2 foreclaws +7 melee (1d4+3)   Space/Reach: 15 ft./10 ft.   Special Attacks: Flaming bite   Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/slashing, darkvision 60 ft., construct traits   Saves: Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +4   Abilities: Str 23, Dex 13, Con—, Int—, Wis 10, Cha 1   Feats: Toughness   Skills: —   Environment: Any land or underground   Challenge Rating: 5 [more like a 6?]   Alignment: Always neutral    Triceratops Burning Zombie  Type: Huge Construct  Hit Dice: 20d10+43 (153 hp)  Initiative: -2  Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares)  Armor Class: 23 (-2 size, -2 Dex, +17 natural), touch 6, flat-footed 23  Base Attack/Grapple: +15/+34  Attack: Bite +24 melee (2d6+11 plus 3d6 fire) or gore +24 melee (2d8+11)  Full Attack: Bite +24 melee (2d6+11 plus 3d6 fire) and gore +19 melee (2d8+5)  Space/Reach: 15 ft./10 ft.  Special Attacks: Flaming bite  Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/slashing, darkvision 60 ft., construct traits  Saves: Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +4  Abilities: Str 32, Dex 7, Con—, Int—, Wis 10, Cha 1  Feats: Toughness  Skills: —  Environment: Any land or underground  Challenge Rating: 7 [more like an 8?]  Alignment: Always neutral    Combat  Since the burning zombie version is slower and clumsier than a living Triceratops, it makes sense to lose the powerful charge & trample, but if it kept them they'd be:  Powerful Charge (Ex): When a triceratops charges, its gore attack deals 4d8+22 points of damage.  Trample (Ex): Reflex half DC 31, damage 2d12+16. The save DC is Strength-based.  With those tricks I think its CR should bump up to 9.  Tyrannosaurus Burning Zombie (modified)   Type: Huge Construct   Hit Dice: 22d10+43 (164 hp)   Initiative: +1   Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)   Armor Class: 19 (-2 size, +11 natural), touch 8, flat-footed 19   Base Attack/Grapple: +16/+34   Attack: Bite +24 melee (3d6+10 plus 3d6 fire)   Full Attack: Bite +24 melee (3d6+10 plus 3d6 fire)   Space/Reach: 15 ft./10 ft.   Special Attacks: Flaming bite, improved grab, swallow whole   Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/slashing, darkvision 60 ft., construct traits   Saves: Fort +7, Ref +7, Will +7   Abilities: Str 30, Dex 10, Con—, Int—, Wis 10, Cha 1   Feats: Toughness   Skills: —   Environment: Any land or underground   Challenge Rating: 8 [more like a 9?]   Alignment: Always neutral   Combat   Improved Grab (Ex): To use this ability, a Tyrannosaurus burning zombie must hit an opponent of up to one size smaller with its bite attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold and can try to swallow the foe the following round.   Swallow Whole (Ex): A Tyrannosaurus burning zombie can try to swallow a grabbed opponent of up to two sizes smaller by making a successful grapple check. The swallowed creature takes 2d8+10 points of bludgeoning damage and 8 points of acid* damage per round from the Tyrannosaurus’s gizzard. A swallowed creature can cut its way out by using a light slashing or piercing weapon to deal 25 points of damage to the gizzard (AC 12). Once the creature exits, muscular action closes the hole; another swallowed opponent must cut its own way out.   A Huge Tyrannosaurus’s gizzard can hold 2 Medium, 8 Small, 32 Tiny, or 128 Diminutive or smaller opponents.*Maybe switch digestive juices acid damage to fire from burning liquid, although the Carnivorous Wall's internal fluids do acid, so it makes sense to leave it as is.</blockquote>

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