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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4473670" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well I'm not sure it merits a Charisma&nbsp; equaling an average human, but agree 1 may be too low. although it shoesn't make a great deal of difference as far as its skill use goes, maybe something in the Cha 6-8 range would be more suitably, that matches many &quot;ugly dumb brute&quot; type monsters such as Gargoyles, Rust Monsters etc. Furthermore, it just strikes me as weird having a ooze be more charismatic than it is intelligent, unless its tied in with the monster's powers or theme.How about Cha 6, one point lower than its Int?Yes I tend to apply an over-literal translation of their stats. Most Oozes have a much worse AC in 3rd edition D&amp;D than the same monster under the 1st/2nd edition AD&amp;D rules, so it would be appropriate to mark the goop ghoul's AC down. If it follows the standard 'no armour' Ooze paradigm it'd be:Armor Class: 8 (-2 Dex) touch 8, flat-footed 8</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4473670, member: 57383"] Well I'm not sure it merits a Charisma equaling an average human, but agree 1 may be too low. although it shoesn't make a great deal of difference as far as its skill use goes, maybe something in the Cha 6-8 range would be more suitably, that matches many "ugly dumb brute" type monsters such as Gargoyles, Rust Monsters etc. Furthermore, it just strikes me as weird having a ooze be more charismatic than it is intelligent, unless its tied in with the monster's powers or theme. How about Cha 6, one point lower than its Int? Yes I tend to apply an over-literal translation of their stats. Most Oozes have a much worse AC in 3rd edition D&D than the same monster under the 1st/2nd edition AD&D rules, so it would be appropriate to mark the goop ghoul's AC down. If it follows the standard 'no armour' Ooze paradigm it'd be: Armor Class: 8 (-2 Dex) touch 8, flat-footed 8 [/QUOTE]

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