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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5920292" data-attributes="member: 57383">It's currently got Improved Initiative, so making that a (B) instead of Skill Focus (Hide) makes no difference to the stats.Giving it +12 Hide means it's only 2 points better at Hide than a Dense Pudding. In 2nd edition AD&D Surprise Rolls are made on a d10, so the Gray Pudding's got the equivalent of a 4-point advantage over the Dense Pudding.Hmm, I'd rather give it the +16 racial bonus you suggested earlier and re-wrangle the numbers to it has Hide -2. That way it's got 4 points more Hide when in a cave.I'd still like to give it Skill Focus, but in Move Silently, so it's quieter than the Dense Pudding's +10.Like this... Skill Ranks (13 SPs): Climb 0, Hide 9, Move Silently 4, Listen 0  Skills: Climb +11, Hide -2*, Move Silently +12, Listen +8 Feats: Improved Initiative, Reckless Offense, Skill Focus (Move Silently), Stealthy, Weapon Focus (slam)[One of these feats needs to be cut or turned into (B), I'd rather keep all the feats and make one of them a Bonus Feat. It doesn't matter that much which one.]  Skills:   A gray pudding has a +8 racial bonus on Listen and Move Silently  checks. Gray puddings have a +8   racial bonus on Climb checks and can  always   choose  to take 10 on a  Climb  check, even if rushed or  threatened. *A gray pudding has a +16 circumstance bonus to Hide checks in natural underground terrain such as caves.</blockquote>