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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5920292" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>It's currently got Improved Initiative, so making that a (B) instead of Skill Focus (Hide) makes no difference to the stats.</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Giving it +12 Hide means it's only 2 points better at Hide than a Dense Pudding. In 2nd edition AD&D Surprise Rolls are made on a d10, so the Gray Pudding's got the equivalent of a 4-point advantage over the Dense Pudding.</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Hmm, I'd rather give it the +16 racial bonus you suggested earlier and re-wrangle the numbers to it has Hide -2. That way it's got 4 points more Hide when in a cave.</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>I'd still like to give it Skill Focus, but in Move Silently, so it's quieter than the Dense Pudding's +10.</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Like this...</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong><strong>Skill Ranks (13 SPs):</strong> Climb 0, Hide 9, Move Silently 4, Listen 0</strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong><strong>Skills:</strong> Climb +11, Hide -2*, Move Silently +12, Listen +8</strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong><strong>Feats:</strong> Improved Initiative, Reckless Offense, Skill Focus (Move Silently), Stealthy, Weapon Focus (slam)</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><strong>[</strong><span style="color: Red">One of these feats needs to be cut or turned into (B), I'd rather keep all the feats and make one of them a Bonus Feat. It doesn't matter that much which one.</span><strong>]</strong></strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong><strong>Skills:</strong> A gray pudding has a +8 racial bonus on Listen and Move Silently checks. Gray puddings have a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on a Climb check, even if rushed or threatened.</strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>*A gray pudding has a +16 circumstance bonus to Hide checks in natural underground terrain such as caves.</strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5920292, member: 57383"] [B][B] It's currently got Improved Initiative, so making that a (B) instead of Skill Focus (Hide) makes no difference to the stats. Giving it +12 Hide means it's only 2 points better at Hide than a Dense Pudding. In 2nd edition AD&D Surprise Rolls are made on a d10, so the Gray Pudding's got the equivalent of a 4-point advantage over the Dense Pudding. Hmm, I'd rather give it the +16 racial bonus you suggested earlier and re-wrangle the numbers to it has Hide -2. That way it's got 4 points more Hide when in a cave. I'd still like to give it Skill Focus, but in Move Silently, so it's quieter than the Dense Pudding's +10. Like this... [B]Skill Ranks (13 SPs):[/B] Climb 0, Hide 9, Move Silently 4, Listen 0 [B]Skills:[/B] Climb +11, Hide -2*, Move Silently +12, Listen +8 [B]Feats:[/B] Improved Initiative, Reckless Offense, Skill Focus (Move Silently), Stealthy, Weapon Focus (slam) [B][[/B][COLOR=Red]One of these feats needs to be cut or turned into (B), I'd rather keep all the feats and make one of them a Bonus Feat. It doesn't matter that much which one.[/COLOR][B]][/B] [B]Skills:[/B] A gray pudding has a +8 racial bonus on Listen and Move Silently checks. Gray puddings have a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on a Climb check, even if rushed or threatened. *A gray pudding has a +16 circumstance bonus to Hide checks in natural underground terrain such as caves.[/b][/b] [/QUOTE]
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