[Speculation] What is "Project G"

[IceBear]

Ok thanks. I just thought it was said that this was going to be something completely different and Sean's sourcebook "Lords of Darkness" (or whatever it was called) seems to cover the same ground. I guess the uniqueness of Monte's product was over exaggerated by someone.

IceBear

 

[Lady Dragon]

I think the subject of this book has to be a bit odd.I think if it were just an ordinary book Monte Cooks name on it alone would make them publish it.So the real question needs to be why is a book by Monte Cook in limbo?

 

[heirodule]

I think...

I think "g" stands for "ghosts".

There's alot of spectres and ghosts and info about death gods in the miniature playtest selections.

 

[Henry]

Based on the inferences we've seen, I beleive that Book of Vile Darkness is going to be VERY different from Lords of Darkness...

Back to Project G:

A long time ago (about 1999 - 2000), Sean asked everyone on the old WotC news groups "if you could take ONE item with you while stranded on a desert island, what would it be?"

my answer was "multi-tool." When Sean mailed me back questioning what I meant, I sent him a link to a site selling these handy little gadgets.

Whether this has ANYTHING to do with project G, I don't know, but it struck me as really strange at the time...

 

[RogueJK]

Ok thanks. I just thought it was said that this was going to be something completely different and Sean's sourcebook "Lords of Darkness" (or whatever it was called) seems to cover the same ground. I guess the uniqueness of Monte's product was over exaggerated by someone.

IceBear

The Book of Vile Darkness will be very different from Lords of Darkness.

LoD describes the various evil power groups of the Realms. It includes some prestige classes and locations for the groups, as well as their history and background. BoVD, on the other hands, will detail such topics as torture, slavery, prostitution, demon worship, necromancy, etc. It will be the official WotC sourcebook on evil.

If you want to compare the Book of Vile Darkness to something, it's much closer to something like AEG's Evil.


From the d20reviews entry for the Book of Vile Darkness...
"Monte Cook says:

If I wrote a book called The Book of Vile Darkness, I would fill it with the most hideously evil spells, feats, prestige classes, magic items, artifacts, monsters and NPCs that you'd ever want to put in a D&D game. I would include rules for the benefits evil cultists get from sacrifices, new poisons, diseases, and so on. I would also include plenty of DM advice on running evil villains, villainous plots, evil organizations, and so on. I would include a little, but not a lot of, discussion on running evil PCs. Oh, and did I mention that the "monsters" that I would put in there would include all the major archdevils and demon princes? And their various minions, and those that revere them almost like gods?

Thats what I would do. If I wrote a book called the Book of Vile Darkness."

 

[IceBear]

Please explain what you mean by *very* different?

It's my understanding that the Book of Vile Darkness will contain evil organizations, NPCs, spells, magic items, dark gods, alternative magic sources (sacrifices), etc.

When Monte's secret project was first announced, I heard that it was going to be completely different than anything else. I didn't mean that it was exactly the same as Lords of Darkness, I just meant that it didn't seem to be *completely* different than the other sourcebooks that have already been published.

Now, I haven't really been following BoVD very much so I'm just curious about what this contains that's going to make it very unique. I do understand that it's going to be "darker" and more "adult" than other WotC books.

[Edit] Ok, Rogue posted before I finished. Based on what he said then I have to guess that the rumours that this book was going to be *completely* different was either exaggerated or misunderstood by myself. This doesn't appear to be anything different than the other splatbooks, it's just a splatbook on evil

IceBear

 

[RogueJK]

Please explain what you mean by *very* different?

It's my understanding that the Book of Vile Darkness will contain evil organizations, NPCs, spells, magic items, dark gods, alternative magic sources (sacrifices), etc.

When Monte's secret project was first announced, I heard that it was going to be completely different than anything else. I didn't mean that it was exactly the same as Lords of Darkness, I just meant that it didn't seem to be *completely* different than the other sourcebooks that have already been published.

Now, I haven't really been following BoVD very much so I'm just curious about what this contains that's going to make it very unique. I do understand that it's going to be "darker" and more "adult" than other WotC books.

IceBear

Lords of Darkness is a Forgotten Realms product, and focuses mainly on the Forgotten Realms' evil organizations and NPCs. The Book of Vile Darkness, however, focuses on evil spells, feats, prestige classes, magic items, artifacts, and monsters, as well as new mechanics for such things as human sacrifice and demon worship.

In other words, Lords of Darkness is like an slightly more detailed, evil-related "Enemies and Allies". The Book of Vile Darkness will be like an evil-related "Dungeon Master's Guide".

 

[IceBear]

Hey Rogue, thanks for the feedback. I had seen that quote. I didn't mean how it was going to be different from LoD, but about how it was going to be different from everything else that has been printed by WotC. That was my understanding of what it was, but I guess that's wrong.

My guess is that the original scoopers that said Monte's secret project was going to be something *COMPLETELY* different got it mixed up with Project G.

IceBear

 

[Lady Dragon]

BoVD is going to cover the Demons and devils and thats enough for me.

But seriously Lords of darkness was a FR book on specific evil organizations in that world.BoVD will be more about how to be evil for to create evil groups etc.

 

[IceBear]

*sigh* I guess I shouldn't have used LoD in my post. It's just that I had originally heard that Monte's secret project was on something *COMPLETELY* different (notice the stress on the word completely). This is the Complete Handbook of Evil - been there, done that.

That's fine, it is a good book that I'll want, it's just not COMPLETELY different as I was lead to expect (not that I had a clue what that could have been as just about everything has been covered already).

IceBear