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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6567096" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>My first thought is always to compare it to other similar options already in the game and then see where the new one might be over or underpowered in comparison.</p><p></p><p>So what we have here essentially (at it's highest form) is a 1d12 or 2d6 weapon attack with an Action, plus a potential 1d4 extra damage and an effect with a Bonus action. The closest thing in the game we have to this is the Polearm Master feat, which grants a 1d10 weapon a Bonus action attack for 1d4 damage and an effect (creatures entering the wielder's reach provoke an OA.) So this cantrip grants four boons over Polearm Master-- there is no Feat (or ASI) cost to acquire it; you get an extra point of damage on the primary attack; you get four effects to choose from rather than just one; you can attack a second target at range rather than needing it to be adjacent to you.</p><p></p><p>Thus, my initial thought is that no, this cantrip is too good. Gaining four distinct advantages over Polearm Master says to me that it's overpowered, as there are no costs to acquiring it. If you were an human EK wielding a halberd, what would you rather take... this cantrip or spend your Feat on Polearm Master? I don't see why anyone would take the feat when they acquire so much more from the spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6567096, member: 7006"] My first thought is always to compare it to other similar options already in the game and then see where the new one might be over or underpowered in comparison. So what we have here essentially (at it's highest form) is a 1d12 or 2d6 weapon attack with an Action, plus a potential 1d4 extra damage and an effect with a Bonus action. The closest thing in the game we have to this is the Polearm Master feat, which grants a 1d10 weapon a Bonus action attack for 1d4 damage and an effect (creatures entering the wielder's reach provoke an OA.) So this cantrip grants four boons over Polearm Master-- there is no Feat (or ASI) cost to acquire it; you get an extra point of damage on the primary attack; you get four effects to choose from rather than just one; you can attack a second target at range rather than needing it to be adjacent to you. Thus, my initial thought is that no, this cantrip is too good. Gaining four distinct advantages over Polearm Master says to me that it's overpowered, as there are no costs to acquiring it. If you were an human EK wielding a halberd, what would you rather take... this cantrip or spend your Feat on Polearm Master? I don't see why anyone would take the feat when they acquire so much more from the spell. [/QUOTE]
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