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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8131303" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's a False Dichotomy.&nbsp; They do not become ineffective if they don't get a pass.&nbsp; They can and do come up with as many clever ideas as anyone else.&nbsp; The difference is that illusion gives them a wider range to be clever in, granting them the tools that they need to make their ideas work.Above when you first responded to me, it was because I said how hard it would be to make a replica of a god.&nbsp; It's always going to be much harder to replicate a specific individual, especially to someone who knows what that individual looks like, than a general member of that species. If you want to make an image of the ancient red dragon Fryerburnsem to talk to someone who has seen him, you need to know that one horn is broken off, he has a scar on his belly and right side, and two on his tail, and that his scales on his legs have dulled due to age.&nbsp; That means you really need to have seen him before and perhaps make a roll go get it right.&nbsp; However, if you just want to make an image of a big, honking red dragon and not a specific individual, it will be pretty easy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8131303, member: 23751"] That's a False Dichotomy. They do not become ineffective if they don't get a pass. They can and do come up with as many clever ideas as anyone else. The difference is that illusion gives them a wider range to be clever in, granting them the tools that they need to make their ideas work. Above when you first responded to me, it was because I said how hard it would be to make a replica of a god. It's always going to be much harder to replicate a specific individual, especially to someone who knows what that individual looks like, than a general member of that species. If you want to make an image of the ancient red dragon Fryerburnsem to talk to someone who has seen him, you need to know that one horn is broken off, he has a scar on his belly and right side, and two on his tail, and that his scales on his legs have dulled due to age. That means you really need to have seen him before and perhaps make a roll go get it right. However, if you just want to make an image of a big, honking red dragon and not a specific individual, it will be pretty easy. [/QUOTE]

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