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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8305058" data-attributes="member: 7030563">To start with that is the idea of a true martial, someone focused on more damage and more hps.&nbsp; If they have powers or abilities, or god forbid spells then they are not really martials any more are they?Further the premise is untrue, many fighter subclasses are not focused on damage and hps.&nbsp; Samaurai and most of all Bannerets are not focused on damage with their subclass abilities.&nbsp; Further although the Rune Knight has some damage focused runes, many of the runes are not damage focused, you can build a rune knight without any extra damage abilities over the main class.&nbsp; Ironically I think these are some of the most hated and least played fighters.&nbsp; EKs are also not focused on damage and hps, and Arcane Archer abilities are pretty muted in terms of extra damage, being largely more control, skill and cantrip focused.Now the fighters main fighter class abilities are focused on combat, but martial combat is what defines the class so that makes sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8305058, member: 7030563"] To start with that is the idea of a true martial, someone focused on more damage and more hps. If they have powers or abilities, or god forbid spells then they are not really martials any more are they? Further the premise is untrue, many fighter subclasses are not focused on damage and hps. Samaurai and most of all Bannerets are not focused on damage with their subclass abilities. Further although the Rune Knight has some damage focused runes, many of the runes are not damage focused, you can build a rune knight without any extra damage abilities over the main class. Ironically I think these are some of the most hated and least played fighters. EKs are also not focused on damage and hps, and Arcane Archer abilities are pretty muted in terms of extra damage, being largely more control, skill and cantrip focused. Now the fighters main fighter class abilities are focused on combat, but martial combat is what defines the class so that makes sense. [/QUOTE]

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