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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8305533" data-attributes="member: 42582">If you're engaging the fiction, then why would two characters feel &quot;samey&quot; just because the resolution process is the same?Even in the context of D&amp;D, I find it a very strange assertion - in AD&amp;D forcing a normal door is rolled on a d6, whereas bending bars is rolled on a d%, but I've never heard anyone say that this made them feel different as feats of strength. And nor have I ever heard it said that thieving abilities all feel the same, or all feel like bending bars, because they're rolled on percentage dice.In any event, as I posted already for me mechanics in a RPG are a way of settling what the shared fiction is - which is where the granularity and distinction are to be found. The mechanics are not ends in themselves!This is also not correct. The DC-by-level chart takes it as a premise that a 10th level character is doing something different from a 1st level character. This is expressed in the discussion (found in both the PHB and the DMG) of the Tiers of Play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8305533, member: 42582"] If you're engaging the fiction, then why would two characters feel "samey" just because the resolution process is the same? Even in the context of D&D, I find it a very strange assertion - in AD&D forcing a normal door is rolled on a d6, whereas bending bars is rolled on a d%, but I've never heard anyone say that this made them feel [I]different[/I] as feats of strength. And nor have I ever heard it said that thieving abilities all feel the same, or all feel like bending bars, because they're rolled on percentage dice. In any event, as I posted already for me mechanics in a RPG are a way of settling what the shared fiction is - which is where the granularity and distinction are to be found. The mechanics are not ends in themselves! This is also not correct. The DC-by-level chart takes it as a premise that a 10th level character is doing something different from a 1st level character. This is expressed in the discussion (found in both the PHB and the DMG) of the Tiers of Play. [/QUOTE]

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