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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8306172" data-attributes="member: 7030563">You are wrong the superior technique fighting style grants a battle master maneuver and martial adept feat available to any character grants two more.Such a character is substantially more complex with crap to keep track of all over his character sheet.&nbsp; one-for-one It is also easier to manage slots than daily castings.&nbsp; The wizard does not have to keep track of&nbsp; if he cast darkness or invisibility, just that he cast a 2nd level spell and used a 2nd level slot.Aside from his abilities and choices, every single time he makes an attack roll or ability check he needs to figure out if he or the target is in &quot;direct sunlight&quot;.I find it pretty easy to manage spell slots, not so easy to manage abilities that vary with short rest vs long rest.Options do not mean complexity.The 12th-level champion if he uses the attack action every single turn has to decide how to&nbsp; split his 3 attacks between the 5 different weapons he started with (assuming he did not buy any new ones after 1st level), grappling, shoving or making an unarmed attack.&nbsp; Then he can decide what riders to put on that attack and whether to take action surge and do it again.That is just if he makes an attack instead of casting a cantrip or spell himself or doing something else.The champion has a ton of &quot;options&quot;, not as many spells but a lot of options.The Superior technique fighting style gives one battlemaster maneuver and it is published official WOTC RAW.&nbsp; Martial adept also gives two and I think it is in the PHB.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8306172, member: 7030563"] You are wrong the superior technique fighting style grants a battle master maneuver and martial adept feat available to any character grants two more. Such a character is substantially more complex with crap to keep track of all over his character sheet. one-for-one It is also easier to manage slots than daily castings. The wizard does not have to keep track of if he cast darkness or invisibility, just that he cast a 2nd level spell and used a 2nd level slot. Aside from his abilities and choices, every single time he makes an attack roll or ability check he needs to figure out if he or the target is in "direct sunlight". I find it pretty easy to manage spell slots, not so easy to manage abilities that vary with short rest vs long rest. Options do not mean complexity. The 12th-level champion if he uses the attack action every single turn has to decide how to split his 3 attacks between the 5 different weapons he started with (assuming he did not buy any new ones after 1st level), grappling, shoving or making an unarmed attack. Then he can decide what riders to put on that attack and whether to take action surge and do it again. That is just if he makes an attack instead of casting a cantrip or spell himself or doing something else. The champion has a ton of "options", not as many spells but a lot of options. The Superior technique fighting style gives one battlemaster maneuver and it is published official WOTC RAW. Martial adept also gives two and I think it is in the PHB. [/QUOTE]

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