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<blockquote data-quote="Asisreo" data-source="post: 8306486" data-attributes="member: 7019027">I've brought this up earlier but I think its important to recognize &quot;martial&quot; isn't a class and has no existing fiction tied to it.The martial classes have their own individual fictions tied to them. And these fictions are not equal across all situations.The fiction of the fighter is to be a fighter. You're specifically not looking for any sort of out-of-combat solutions because you thrive in fights. You're not the &quot;rock-lifter&quot; or the &quot;great climber,&quot; you're specialized in fighting, period.Barbarians, on the other hand, are proficient fighters but less flexible. They are, however, much more useful outside of combat. If your DM rules iron doors are broken at DC 20, the barbarian stops needing to roll, period, at level 18 and automatically gets to DC24 by default, no rolling at level 20. Berserkers can force frightened on characters with relatively low wisdom at-will. They can intimidate a king with their presence and make negotiations easier. Totem Warrior has a sleuth of useful OoC uses like Spirit Seeker, Aspect of the Beast, and Spirit Walker.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Asisreo, post: 8306486, member: 7019027"] I've brought this up earlier but I think its important to recognize "martial" isn't a class and has no existing fiction tied to it. The martial classes have their own individual fictions tied to them. And these fictions are not equal across all situations. The fiction of the fighter is to [I]be a fighter.[/I] You're specifically [I]not[/I] looking for any sort of out-of-combat solutions because you thrive in fights. You're not the "rock-lifter" or the "great climber," you're specialized in fighting, period. Barbarians, on the other hand, are proficient fighters but less flexible. They are, however, much more useful outside of combat. If your DM rules iron doors are broken at DC 20, the barbarian stops needing to roll, period, at level 18 and automatically gets to DC24 by default, no rolling at level 20. Berserkers can force frightened on characters with relatively low wisdom at-will. They can intimidate a king with their presence and make negotiations easier. Totem Warrior has a sleuth of useful OoC uses like Spirit Seeker, Aspect of the Beast, and Spirit Walker. [/QUOTE]

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