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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8308951" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>That's not actually a solution though. Part of what comes with having an official whatever, is people bellyaching about not being able to play it in games. So it's not like it doesn't affect those that don't want it. I personally liked the 4e Warlord in 4e and would loved to have seen the concept done some justice in 5e, but at this stage of 5e I'm no longer sure it should be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A full caster that happens to be an expert and a full martial that happens to be an expert are much different than an expert class that normally comes with minimized combat and casting prowess in exchange for even more skill prowess.</p><p></p><p>I think creating expert subclasses for other classes would be a much cooler way to add that into the game. I'm not opposed to something like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is that anything left to mechanically distinguish a Warlord for 5e would not be something the 4e Warlord had.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Scholar has no combat capabilities - at least as far as I can tell by the name. Elaborate there and it might could get somewhere - but at the moment it just sounds like the 'mostest skills ever class'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8308951, member: 6795602"] That's not actually a solution though. Part of what comes with having an official whatever, is people bellyaching about not being able to play it in games. So it's not like it doesn't affect those that don't want it. I personally liked the 4e Warlord in 4e and would loved to have seen the concept done some justice in 5e, but at this stage of 5e I'm no longer sure it should be. A full caster that happens to be an expert and a full martial that happens to be an expert are much different than an expert class that normally comes with minimized combat and casting prowess in exchange for even more skill prowess. I think creating expert subclasses for other classes would be a much cooler way to add that into the game. I'm not opposed to something like that. The problem is that anything left to mechanically distinguish a Warlord for 5e would not be something the 4e Warlord had. Scholar has no combat capabilities - at least as far as I can tell by the name. Elaborate there and it might could get somewhere - but at the moment it just sounds like the 'mostest skills ever class'. [/QUOTE]
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