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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8309537" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>This has long been a point of contention with groups. How "beyond reality" do martials get to be at higher levels?</p><p></p><p>Its one of the things I liked in 4e.... the notion of Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies really signified that the game wasn't just "higher level" it was "different". The game both moved into new spheres with each tier but made it very clear to the players and DM, setting the appropriate expectations. I think that allowed for higher level martials to be mythic in a way that made sense with the narrative.</p><p></p><p>But unfortunately there will never be agreement here. Some people want a 20th level fighter to be Captain America, and some want them to be Thor....and they are just not compatible from a philosophy standpoint.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately 3e's solution was to keep the fighters mundane....and rely on ever increasing sources of magic to give the fighters "mythic" abilities..... fly, teleport, etc. This "in theory" allowed a group to tailor the mythicness to their own tastes....in practice though I found it a clunky solution and one where the casters still tended to dominate at higher levels regardless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8309537, member: 5889"] This has long been a point of contention with groups. How "beyond reality" do martials get to be at higher levels? Its one of the things I liked in 4e.... the notion of Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies really signified that the game wasn't just "higher level" it was "different". The game both moved into new spheres with each tier but made it very clear to the players and DM, setting the appropriate expectations. I think that allowed for higher level martials to be mythic in a way that made sense with the narrative. But unfortunately there will never be agreement here. Some people want a 20th level fighter to be Captain America, and some want them to be Thor....and they are just not compatible from a philosophy standpoint. Ultimately 3e's solution was to keep the fighters mundane....and rely on ever increasing sources of magic to give the fighters "mythic" abilities..... fly, teleport, etc. This "in theory" allowed a group to tailor the mythicness to their own tastes....in practice though I found it a clunky solution and one where the casters still tended to dominate at higher levels regardless. [/QUOTE]
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